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12 June 2012, 22:37
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Ahh there it is at the far right of the pic I can't see the fruit cake though
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It'd gone, along with the bacon butties Mrs PD & meself are just wrapping ourselves around a wedge of this & no Kerny jokes please
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13 June 2012, 01:28
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13 June 2012, 12:50
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It'd gone, along with the bacon butties Mrs PD & meself are just wrapping ourselves around a wedge of this & no Kerny jokes please
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very funny now stick to the Ribquests.
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06 July 2012, 23:26
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Thanks for all your help with this, I've been looking but haven't purchased one as yet.
I really like the Omnifuel, however camping with the kids I really don't see when I would use it with a liquid fuel so I have seen this gas version, it has a little more power and it's cheaper too at around £65, but as I say it's gas only....
Gravity EF II with Piezo ignition: Primus Camping
Any good?
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07 July 2012, 01:20
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What's wrong with using liquid fuel? It's less dangerous than carrying gas cannisters.
I wouldn't go back to using gas now.
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07 July 2012, 07:45
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What's wrong with using liquid fuel? It's less dangerous than carrying gas cannisters.
I wouldn't go back to using gas now.
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How can you say that ? Liquid fuel is just that liquid, and on transfer to any portable stove, can be spilt, Gas canisters are self contained, and just need to be screwed into the cooker !
As for carrying liquid or gas canisters, there is no difference, both are in containers and need to be stored correctly.
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07 July 2012, 10:08
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Originally Posted by steco1958
How can you say that ? Liquid fuel is just that liquid, and on transfer to any portable stove, can be spilt, Gas canisters are self contained, and just need to be screwed into the cooker !
As for carrying liquid or gas canisters, there is no difference, both are in containers and need to be stored correctly.
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Easily-pressurised gas is always going to be far more dangerous than a non-pressurised liquid.
If there's a leak with pressurised gas on a small stove there's nothing you can do about it bar reseat the cylinder (assuming it's a resealable type) -you lose all of it and it's far easier to ignite.
It's a lot easier to accidentally puncture a disposable gas cannister than it is to puncture a proper fuel flask.Also, you can physically check the level of fuel in a liquid stove before you light it so you won't ever need to change a cylinder in the middle of doing something.
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07 July 2012, 11:05
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Now don't get me wrong, I would really like a multi fuel stove but I just think I would probably use it mostly with gas. There would be no pumping, preheating pouring for fuels etc.
The gas only one is £65 and the omnifuel one is double that and I still have a tent to buy.
But have a look at this video it shows the omnifuel in operation:
omnifuel primus - YouTube
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07 July 2012, 11:05
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I have been using Trangia since a kid(and thats'a long time ago ). Maybe not that sophisticated but pretty bulletproof, it have always work ok in all weather conditions, even in harsh winter. I prefer liquid fuel, but think there is a gas burner kit available also, guess gas burns cleaner than methanol.
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07 July 2012, 14:05
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Originally Posted by whisper
Now don't get me wrong, I would really like a multi fuel stove but I just think I would probably use it mostly with gas. There would be no pumping, preheating pouring for fuels etc.
The gas only one is £65 and the omnifuel one is double that and I still have a tent to buy.
But have a look at this video it shows the omnifuel in operation:
omnifuel primus - YouTube
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That is a really cool looking bit of kit. I want one!
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07 July 2012, 14:26
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07 July 2012, 19:35
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Originally Posted by whisper
Now don't get me wrong, I would really like a multi fuel stove but I just think I would probably use it mostly with gas. There would be no pumping, preheating pouring for fuels etc.
The gas only one is £65 and the omnifuel one is double that and I still have a tent to buy.
But have a look at this video it shows the omnifuel in operation:
omnifuel primus - YouTube
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My petrol Coleman takes about 10 seconds to start. Practically no messing around preheating.
If I had to mess around with preheating like that Omnifuel, I'd be put off it as well. I used to hate preheating a Primus.
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07 July 2012, 21:17
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Originally Posted by Nos4r2
My petrol Coleman takes about 10 seconds to start. Practically no messing around preheating.
If I had to mess around with preheating like that Omnifuel, I'd be put off it as well. I used to hate preheating a Primus.
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I really like the idea of a multi fuel stove, but small kids and all that.....
A nice low to the floor gas one will do me I think
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07 July 2012, 23:00
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I really like the idea of a multi fuel stove, but small kids and all that.....
A nice low to the floor gas one will do me I think
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I really don't understand what you mean about small kids mate.
Pop over and have a look at the Coleman and you'll see what I mean-it's really no harder to use than a gas stove. There's none of that messing around preheating with big flames or setting up and messing with valves like the omnifuel stove.It's a lot harder to cause an accident than with gas as you depressurise it every time it's finished with.
(just found a vid of one being lit properly)-('scuse the foreign) here:-
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12 July 2012, 20:29
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Thanks mate, yeah I would really like to see that one in action for the longer camping trips
As for the stove that I'm planning on taking to Alderney I got the Primus Gravity 2 in the end. It was the lowest stove to the ground with 4 legs and a 3000w burner and the guy in the shop recomended that I use it with the Jetboil gas as apparently it has a better mix
The stove came with its own dry bag and a wind shield two, it cost £65 and if I can find it cheaper in the next 7 days they will refund the difference on my card
When I said about heating food on a rib he recommended one of these Trekmate flameless cook systems:
Trekmates - Flameless Cook System
Has anyone tried them?
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12 July 2012, 20:37
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12 July 2012, 20:51
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All you need is one of these...
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12 July 2012, 21:48
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Thats an interesting approach - it will of course be impossible to source fuel anywhere where you might want to. There's a review here: grough — On test: Trekmates Flameless Cooking System which suggests it would be useful for heating but not cooking food. On a rib with a tank of petrol around though I can see the appeal.
Historically I've always been a Trangia guy (not on the rib) but if I was buying now I'd seriously consider the Kelly Kettle, as I've seen one in action and its impressive.
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12 July 2012, 22:04
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The guy in Cotswold Camping said that the Duke of Edinburgh award scheme recommended them because of the reduced H&S risk....
Quite expensive at £10 for five fuel bags and £30 for a tupperware box
But it does give a flameless & microwaveless option
Having said that, I like Nos's curry and meatballs in a flask method, never fails
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