|
|
07 August 2011, 09:35
|
#1
|
Member
Country: UK - England
Boat name: Angel-B
Make: Ex Y boat
Length: 3m +
Engine: Suzuki 9.9HP
Join Date: Apr 2007
Posts: 594
|
Power gives way to sail...
They should really do something to make 'powerboats' more visible:
Tanker collides with yacht at Cowes Week regatta - Telegraph
Cheers
Chris
__________________
|
|
|
07 August 2011, 09:47
|
#2
|
Member
Country: UK - England
Town: N. Devon
Boat name: (Not Another) Nutkin
Make: Highfield
Length: 6m +
Engine: Outboard, Honda 135
MMSI: 232036183
Join Date: Dec 2008
Posts: 2,046
|
Interesting title- there is the small print about restricted by size and draft to consider.
I see from the CG that the yacht hit the tanker, not the other way around - some one esle not read th smallprint??.
|
|
|
07 August 2011, 09:57
|
#3
|
Member
Country: UK - England
Town: N. Devon
Boat name: (Not Another) Nutkin
Make: Highfield
Length: 6m +
Engine: Outboard, Honda 135
MMSI: 232036183
Join Date: Dec 2008
Posts: 2,046
|
Here it is happening.
1 man over board went down the side you can't see, missed the props and missed the supporting tug
1 crew injured when mast came down
Very lucky !
|
|
|
07 August 2011, 09:58
|
#4
|
Member
Country: UK - England
Boat name: Angel-B
Make: Ex Y boat
Length: 3m +
Engine: Suzuki 9.9HP
Join Date: Apr 2007
Posts: 594
|
Quote:
Originally Posted by treerat
Interesting title- there is the small print about restricted by size and draft to consider.
|
I know that...You know that... I think the number of sailors that don't know that has just been reduced by 1 .
As far as I am aware it is covered by:
1. The colregs
2. Southampton Harbour Byelaws
3. Cowes Week sailing instructions
Cheers
Chris
__________________
|
|
|
07 August 2011, 10:52
|
#5
|
RIBnet admin team
Country: UK - England
Town: The wilds of Wiltshire
Boat name: Dominator
Make: SR5.4
Length: 7m +
Engine: Yam 85
MMSI: 235055163
Join Date: Jul 2005
Posts: 13,069
|
Quote:
Originally Posted by chris123
I know that...You know that... I think the number of sailors that don't know that has just been reduced by 1 .
As far as I am aware it is covered by:
1. The colregs
2. Southampton Harbour Byelaws
3. Cowes Week sailing instructions
Cheers
Chris
|
4. Common sense!
__________________
Need spares,consoles,consumables,hire,training or even a new boat?
Please click HERE and HERE and support our Trade Members.
Join up as a Trade member or Supporter HERE
|
|
|
07 August 2011, 11:02
|
#6
|
Member
Country: UK - Channel Islands
Town: Jersey
Boat name: t/t
Make: Honda
Length: under 3m
Join Date: Oct 2002
Posts: 269
|
A few seconds earlier
Shame the clip does not start a few seconds earlier and I suspect we would hear 2 more short blasts of the horn to make a total of 5 ??
Interesting observations from the clip - tug already attached to the stern of the ship.
It also looks like one of the pilot vessels that may well of been leading the vessel turned around to assist the yacht ??
I may be wrong but I did not think any vessel was supposed to pass between the pilot and the vessel it is escorting.
Thankfully no one was badly injured.
__________________
|
|
|
07 August 2011, 11:02
|
#7
|
RIBnet admin team
Country: UK - Scotland
Boat name: imposter
Make: FunYak
Length: 3m +
Engine: Tohatsu 30HP
MMSI: 235089819
Join Date: Sep 2005
Posts: 11,627
|
MAIB report should make for interesting reading! The wisdom of running a yacht race in the middle of a shipping lane has always been questionable to me (and if the economic imperative exists to do that then perhaps the VTS needs to limit/restrict super tanker movements during races, or provide a larger number of escort boats). Whilst there was one vessel actually hit several others were in the exclusion zone around the tanker. Perhaps that needs more strictly enforced so that vessels not complying with it are disqualified from races?
__________________
|
|
|
07 August 2011, 11:06
|
#8
|
Member
Country: UK - England
Town: York
Boat name: Sugar Free
Make: Tornado
Length: 5m +
Engine: Yam 115
Join Date: Sep 2009
Posts: 119
|
Taking the yacht and the tanker into consideration then the yacht was daft trying to get in front of the tanker.
However looking at the video this appears to be a pre-defined racing circuit. Would they really have yacht racing across a main shipping traffic route?
Gary
__________________
|
|
|
07 August 2011, 11:07
|
#9
|
Member
Country: UK - England
Make: extreme 24
Length: 7m +
Engine: merc 6.2 320hp
Join Date: Jul 2004
Posts: 711
|
wafi's dont you just love em
__________________
|
|
|
07 August 2011, 11:38
|
#10
|
Member
Country: UK - England
Town: Portsmouth
Boat name: Not sure
Make: ABC/Priddy
Length: 10m +
Engine: 2 x 500 FPT
Join Date: Jul 2001
Posts: 928
|
The skipper of the yacht has demonstrated how arrogant sailors have become. It makes my blood boil that the authorities allow hundreds of prats driving yachts to race within metres of the main shipping lanes but won't let the Cowes Powerboat race to start off the RYS as it is deemed to be "Dangerous"
Perhaps it is about time that new laws are introduced to cover stupidity like this skipper fas demonstrated. He should be banned from owning or being on a boat for ever. Rant over!!! Alan P
__________________
|
|
|
07 August 2011, 11:56
|
#11
|
Member
Country: UK - England
Town: Porchfield
Boat name: Katie
Make: Stingher
Length: 10m +
Engine: Verado 350 x 2
Join Date: Jan 2011
Posts: 697
|
Yacht vs Supertanker
Sat in my Predator, off Cowes yesterday afternoon watching the Extreme 40's racing ( fantastic ) and saw the tanker approach Cowes roads from the east, observed a yacht getting close and the tanker ( there was a lead pilot boat / police launch and at the rear a reversed tug / brake ), started honking - lots! I grabbed my camera and took this very poor video ( one handed and aiming by guess work Doh! ). It looked like the yacht turned head into-wind at the last second...........but a bit late! I understand there was a second incident with the tanker at the same time - a Gym palace on the starboard side had a MOB?? But we could'nt see from our position, lots of radio traffic to that effect and a RIB grabbed the casualty/s. All going on!
Lee
IOW
__________________
|
|
|
07 August 2011, 12:12
|
#12
|
RIBnet admin team
Country: UK - Scotland
Boat name: imposter
Make: FunYak
Length: 3m +
Engine: Tohatsu 30HP
MMSI: 235089819
Join Date: Sep 2005
Posts: 11,627
|
Quote:
Originally Posted by Alan Priddy
The skipper of the yacht has demonstrated how arrogant sailors have become. It makes my blood boil that the authorities allow hundreds of prats driving yachts to race within metres of the main shipping lanes but won't let the Cowes Powerboat race to start off the RYS as it is deemed to be "Dangerous"
Perhaps it is about time that new laws are introduced to cover stupidity like this skipper fas demonstrated. He should be banned from owning or being on a boat for ever. Rant over!!! Alan P
|
Do you need certificates / qualifications / license to enter these races? ....
Sorry Alan I couldn't help myself.
__________________
|
|
|
07 August 2011, 13:06
|
#13
|
RIBnet admin team
Country: Ireland
Length: 4m +
Join Date: Feb 2008
Posts: 14,898
|
Well caught! Pure craziness....
Quote:
Originally Posted by Lee argyle
a Gym palace on the starboard side had a MOB??
|
Fell of the rowing machine perhaps?
__________________
|
|
|
07 August 2011, 13:17
|
#14
|
RIBnet admin team
Country: Ireland
Length: 4m +
Join Date: Feb 2008
Posts: 14,898
|
Quote:
Originally Posted by Polwart
Do you need certificates / qualifications / license to enter these races? ....
|
Would ye wheest!
I have to go back there...
__________________
|
|
|
07 August 2011, 13:42
|
#15
|
Member
Country: UK - England
Town: Portsmouth
Boat name: Not sure
Make: ABC/Priddy
Length: 10m +
Engine: 2 x 500 FPT
Join Date: Jul 2001
Posts: 928
|
To my knowledge you don't need anything to race a yacht at Cowes Week. You The UIM / RYA do have a race licence programe which is being updated next year. From then you will need a Coastal Skipper ticket before they will grant a race licence. From my part, I had to take every exam under the sun to sail Lively Lady around the World and bizzarly I am doing a conversion on my Yachtmaster Ocean to power this week in a Redbay in Ireland. Even though I have over 200000 logged sea miles under power, I still have to take the exam.
Alan P
__________________
|
|
|
07 August 2011, 13:53
|
#16
|
RIBnet admin team
Country: Ireland
Length: 4m +
Join Date: Feb 2008
Posts: 14,898
|
Quote:
Originally Posted by Alan Priddy
and bizzarly I am doing a conversion on my Yachtmaster Ocean to power this week in a Redbay in Ireland
|
Why do I think Polwart knew that?
It's bad news for me of course, I'm booked in for a course there in September and I expect that rates will go up now - the "oh yeah, WE trained Alan Priddy you know!" factor
__________________
|
|
|
07 August 2011, 14:24
|
#17
|
Member
Country: UK - England
Town: NW& wherever the boat is!
Boat name: depends on m'mood!
Make: Humbers/15-24m cats
Length: 6m +
Engine: etec130/big volvos
MMSI: many and various
Join Date: Nov 2001
Posts: 1,816
|
Well caught on video-thanks for sharing-unbelievable!
Exclusion zone around large vessels operating in that particular patch of water?
Rules of the road
Rule 1 the survivors of any collision are invariably on the larger vessel!
Quote:
Fell of the rowing machine perhaps?
|
Wilk you're a naughty boy
|
|
|
07 August 2011, 14:25
|
#18
|
RIBnet admin team
Country: UK - Scotland
Boat name: imposter
Make: FunYak
Length: 3m +
Engine: Tohatsu 30HP
MMSI: 235089819
Join Date: Sep 2005
Posts: 11,627
|
Quote:
Originally Posted by willk
Why do I think Polwart knew that?
|
Because I diligently screen every thread for inappropriate content - http://www.rib.net/forum/f8/bananash...tml#post410343 so I already knew of the issue (but not the solution!).
I was merely highlighting the irony that Powerboats racing from Cowes would need a race license (which may not be that hard to get, but does establish a minimum level of competence and provides an ultimate "sanction" against those who can't follow the rules) but are subject to tougher rules on where the race can take place than yachts where in principle anyone can take part and whilst "slower" (so the risk may be lower?) they are generally less manoeuvrable and greater in number.
__________________
|
|
|
07 August 2011, 14:33
|
#19
|
Member
Country: UK - England
Town: NW& wherever the boat is!
Boat name: depends on m'mood!
Make: Humbers/15-24m cats
Length: 6m +
Engine: etec130/big volvos
MMSI: many and various
Join Date: Nov 2001
Posts: 1,816
|
do they need certificates to race there?? I don't know.
But a prat with a certificate is still a Prat!
|
|
|
07 August 2011, 14:47
|
#20
|
RIBnet admin team
Country: Ireland
Length: 4m +
Join Date: Feb 2008
Posts: 14,898
|
Quote:
Originally Posted by Polwart
Because I diligently screen every thread for inappropriate content
|
You too? Difference is, if I don't find some, I put it in...
__________________
|
|
|
|
|
Posting Rules
|
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts
HTML code is Off
|
|
|
|
Recent Discussions |
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|