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06 June 2011, 17:02
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Member
Country: UK - England
Town: Leicester
Boat name: Vixen
Make: Ribcraft
Length: 6m +
Engine: Suzuki OB 175
MMSI: 235071839
Join Date: Jun 2004
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6.5 metre + Single Jet, RIB training
Any forum members know anyone who can give jetrib training on a small rib with a single jet?
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06 June 2011, 17:17
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Member
Country: UK - Channel Islands
Town: jersey
Boat name: Martini II
Make: Arctic 28/FC470
Length: 8m +
Engine: twin 225Opti/50hp 2t
MMSI: 235067688
Join Date: Jun 2005
Posts: 3,030
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Actually I'm currently investigating similar possibilities although the sort of thing I had in mind was 8-10m twins.
Let me know what you find out and I'll do likewise
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06 June 2011, 17:21
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Member
Country: UK - England
Town: Leicester
Boat name: Vixen
Make: Ribcraft
Length: 6m +
Engine: Suzuki OB 175
MMSI: 235071839
Join Date: Jun 2004
Posts: 1,624
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Hello Martini,
I'd seen your post and did not want to hijack it, I thought doing a training course would assist in evaluating if a jetrib would be suitable for me when I get to buying my own boat.
I was thinking in terms of 6.5 - 8.5 though it would still need to be trailerable without going commercial.
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06 June 2011, 17:22
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Member
Country: UK - England
Town: solent
Boat name: Falcon
Make: ocean dynamics
Length: 9m +
Engine: Diesel jet/twin outb
Join Date: Jun 2010
Posts: 24
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Jet training
Jet drive training is available in the Solent...please give me a call on 07879403541, Tony
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06 June 2011, 17:25
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Member
Country: UK - Channel Islands
Town: Alderney
Length: no boat
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Quote:
Originally Posted by martini
Actually I'm currently investigating similar possibilities although the sort of thing I had in mind was 8-10m twins.
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That setup will quite literally dance
Jets are so cool, miss my old Watercraft.
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06 June 2011, 17:29
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Member
Country: UK - Channel Islands
Town: jersey
Boat name: Martini II
Make: Arctic 28/FC470
Length: 8m +
Engine: twin 225Opti/50hp 2t
MMSI: 235067688
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Thanks Tony will do.
Simon I'm more looking at learning about close quarter manouvering etc. A jet rib would be great but unless you have a specific requirement for it, I think the inefficiency would rule it out for leisure use. Certainly if you're like me and cruising's your thing. The generally accepted rule of thumb seems to be that you're 30ish% worse off
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06 June 2011, 17:33
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Member
Country: UK - Channel Islands
Town: Alderney
Length: no boat
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Quote:
Originally Posted by martini
A jet rib would be great but unless you have a specific requirement for it, I think the inefficiency would rule it out for leisure use.
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I disagree, the acceleration is great so it is only top end you lose out on. And you get all the benefits of a straight line of rotation with no exposed parts.
You can tweak them for increased speed with the right hull form too.
Having accepted that diesel inboards are the way ahead, what reliable yet practical drive options are there...
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06 June 2011, 20:43
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Member
Country: UK - England
Town: somerset + scotland
Boat name: Clue:- It's White!
Make: Novamarine
Length: 6m +
Engine: weisel jet!!
Join Date: Mar 2003
Posts: 19
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I would go jets every time. Owned a 5.8mt single jet 170hp diesel rib for nearly 10 years, driven and looked after 3 commercial jet boats for 6 years. 2 single jets and one twin jet. Great fun very manouverable and very lttle maintenance. Wouldn't touch a stern drive with a barge pole.
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06 June 2011, 22:01
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Member
Country: UK - Wales
Town: Southampton
Boat name: DynaMoHumm/ SRV/deja
Make: Avon8.4, 5.4 & 4.777
Length: 8m +
Engine: Cat3126 Yam 90 &70
MMSI: 42
Join Date: Dec 2003
Posts: 6,562
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Hi Guys
As you may know I drive these for a living in tricky circumstances and I'm an APBI. I have a single jet boat in Amble Northumberland 8.4 metres 450 hp CAT which I'm happy to take you out on and enhance your techniques.
Martini if you have a boat in the Channel Islands I'd be happy to come over and train you on board.
I've invoiced over 150 day on twin jets and 350 days on single jets without any mishap, so I feel quite confident about my abilites.
i'm not interested in getting involved in the scramble to sell a training course but i truly know my stuff and would enjoy passing some knowledge on.
This wouldn't be an RYA course. Just some expert tuition
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06 June 2011, 22:48
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Member
Country: UK - Channel Islands
Town: jersey
Boat name: Martini II
Make: Arctic 28/FC470
Length: 8m +
Engine: twin 225Opti/50hp 2t
MMSI: 235067688
Join Date: Jun 2005
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Thanks RW
I don't actually have a jet boat or any immediate plans to get one
It would be good to spend a day with you learning the ropes etc but twins is what I'm really after, I like a challenge!
Here's the sort of thing I'm aspiring to!
YouTube - ‪Jet boat precision turn (Venture Jet, Ocean Dynamics RIB)‬‏
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06 June 2011, 23:52
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Member
Country: UK - Wales
Town: Southampton
Boat name: DynaMoHumm/ SRV/deja
Make: Avon8.4, 5.4 & 4.777
Length: 8m +
Engine: Cat3126 Yam 90 &70
MMSI: 42
Join Date: Dec 2003
Posts: 6,562
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no worries. I just fancied doing a bit of jet boat training!
Looks like theres plenty of options in the Solent
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07 June 2011, 01:11
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Member
Country: UK - England
Town: solent
Boat name: Falcon
Make: ocean dynamics
Length: 9m +
Engine: Diesel jet/twin outb
Join Date: Jun 2010
Posts: 24
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Jet Boat Training
Hi Martini,I omitted to add that we are the approved Southern Trainers for jet training with Hamilton Jets....we use an Ocean Dynamics 9m Cheers ,Tony
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07 June 2011, 16:40
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Member
Country: UK - England
Town: Leicester
Boat name: Vixen
Make: Ribcraft
Length: 6m +
Engine: Suzuki OB 175
MMSI: 235071839
Join Date: Jun 2004
Posts: 1,624
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Yes but Amble is far prettier!
Stu, what ever did happen to that engine crane?
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07 June 2011, 19:32
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Member
Country: UK - Channel Islands
Town: jersey
Boat name: Martini II
Make: Arctic 28/FC470
Length: 8m +
Engine: twin 225Opti/50hp 2t
MMSI: 235067688
Join Date: Jun 2005
Posts: 3,030
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Quote:
Originally Posted by mara
Hi Martini,I omitted to add that we are the approved Southern Trainers for jet training with Hamilton Jets....we use an Ocean Dynamics 9m Cheers ,Tony
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Thanks Tony, is that a single or twin?
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07 June 2011, 23:02
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Member
Country: UK - England
Town: solent
Boat name: Falcon
Make: ocean dynamics
Length: 9m +
Engine: Diesel jet/twin outb
Join Date: Jun 2010
Posts: 24
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Jet Boat Training
Hi Martini,the 9m is a single Hamilton..I would suggest a single is a good starting point on jets,before going on to a twin..it focusses the mind and proves that the outboard engines/ techniques are very different in action and response...ATB Tony
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08 June 2011, 19:44
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Member
Country: UK - Wales
Town: St Davids, Pembrokeshire
Boat name: Shearwater
Make: Ocean Dynamics
Length: 9m +
Engine: diesel inboard440 hp
Join Date: Jun 2011
Posts: 5
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Hi Martini,
If ever you're in Pembrokeshire we'll be happy to show you how it's done. The theory (constant balancing act vectoring the jet & steering) is easy enough, in practice it's a bit tougher - factor in wind & swell & it can be quite a lot tougher . Tim's been driving Ocean Dynamics boats for over 25 years & worked with Shaun White as he developed the early Ocean Dynamics boats. The gutter on Grassholm Island (where that video was taken) is narrower than it looks & even I breathed in the first time I saw the video! If you're up for a challenge then you can't beat an Ocean Dynamics jet boat. Happy manoeuvring! Beth @ venturejet
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08 June 2011, 20:18
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Country: UK - Channel Islands
Town: Alderney
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Quote:
Originally Posted by venturejet
Hi Martini,
If ever you're in Pembrokeshire we'll be happy to show you how it's done. The theory (constant balancing act vectoring the jet & steering) is easy enough, in practice it's a bit tougher - factor in wind & swell & it can be quite a lot tougher . Tim's been driving Ocean Dynamics boats for over 25 years & worked with Shaun White as he developed the early Ocean Dynamics boats. The gutter on Grassholm Island (where that video was taken) is narrower than it looks & even I breathed in the first time I saw the video! If you're up for a challenge then you can't beat an Ocean Dynamics jet boat. Happy manoeuvring! Beth @ venturejet
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Sounds superb
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11 June 2011, 11:54
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Member
Country: UK - Channel Islands
Town: jersey
Boat name: Martini II
Make: Arctic 28/FC470
Length: 8m +
Engine: twin 225Opti/50hp 2t
MMSI: 235067688
Join Date: Jun 2005
Posts: 3,030
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Quote:
Originally Posted by venturejet
Hi Martini,
If ever you're in Pembrokeshire we'll be happy to show you how it's done. The theory (constant balancing act vectoring the jet & steering) is easy enough, in practice it's a bit tougher - factor in wind & swell & it can be quite a lot tougher . Tim's been driving Ocean Dynamics boats for over 25 years & worked with Shaun White as he developed the early Ocean Dynamics boats. The gutter on Grassholm Island (where that video was taken) is narrower than it looks & even I breathed in the first time I saw the video! If you're up for a challenge then you can't beat an Ocean Dynamics jet boat. Happy manoeuvring! Beth @ venturejet
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Hi Beth, welcome to Ribnet
I'd love to find an excuse to head up your way and spend the day playing about! I've been a big fan of OD boats since the early days as well as Tim's driving skills
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11 June 2011, 19:40
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Member
Country: UK - Channel Islands
Town: Jersey
Boat name: Archangel
Make: Ribcraft
Length: 6m +
Engine: ETec 225
MMSI: 235063789
Join Date: Sep 2008
Posts: 1,005
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OD boats are nice but very pricey. I phone up the other day; their basic 8m model is £100K. Ribcraft will do a GRP 10.5 jet for about the same price.
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11 June 2011, 23:11
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Member
Country: UK - Channel Islands
Town: jersey
Boat name: Martini II
Make: Arctic 28/FC470
Length: 8m +
Engine: twin 225Opti/50hp 2t
MMSI: 235067688
Join Date: Jun 2005
Posts: 3,030
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Quote:
Originally Posted by GJ0KYZ
OD boats are nice but very pricey. I phone up the other day; their basic 8m model is £100K. Ribcraft will do a GRP 10.5 jet for about the same price.
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They do them in kit form as well, I'm sure I could knock you one up for much less
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