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05 August 2014, 11:43
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RIBnet supporter
Country: UK - England
Town: Hants
Length: 8m +
Engine: 300hp plus
Join Date: Sep 2007
Posts: 3,072
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Another scammer
I have three e mails to company address today from the same person looking to hire boats, same as earlier this year, each one a slightly different gmail address, google search it, regular scammer
Hello,
Do you have boat available for booking from 12th to 18th
October,2014.The number of guest to expect is 6 people.
Get back to me if you have opening for reservation during my stated date.
John Smith
34 St. Vincent Street
Glasgow
G2 5NW
Scotland
+447087648215
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05 August 2014, 11:51
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Member
Country: Ireland
Town: Galway
Boat name: Top Banana
Make: Scorpion 9m
Length: 9m +
Engine: Yamaha 421STI
MMSI: Yeah right!
Join Date: Jul 2013
Posts: 1,164
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Originally Posted by C2 RIBS
I have three e mails to company address today from the same person looking to hire boats, same as earlier this year, each one a slightly different gmail address, google search it, regular scammer
Hello,
Do you have boat available for booking from 12th to 18th
October,2014.The number of guest to expect is 6 people.
Get back to me if you have opening for reservation during my stated date.
John Smith
34 St. Vincent Street
Glasgow
G2 5NW
Scotland
+447087648215
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It's so often the construction of sentences that gives it away....
Substitute 'John Smith' with 'Vladymir Bolokov' and then read his written enquiry out loud and it's nigh impossible to speak it in anything other than in a thick eastern European accent!
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05 August 2014, 15:53
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Member
Country: UK - Scotland
Town: Fort William
Make: Ribcraft 585
Length: 5m +
Engine: Yamaha F115
Join Date: Mar 2012
Posts: 2,920
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Loving the "John Smith".
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05 August 2014, 18:18
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Member
Country: UK - England
Town: South Yorks
Boat name: Black Pig
Make: Ribcraft
Length: 5m +
Engine: DF140a
MMSI: 235111389
Join Date: Feb 2008
Posts: 12,185
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What happens if you say "yes"? How does the scam work?
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Rule#3: Tha' can't educate pork.
Rule#4: Don't feed the troll
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05 August 2014, 18:24
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Member
Country: Ireland
Town: Galway
Boat name: Top Banana
Make: Scorpion 9m
Length: 9m +
Engine: Yamaha 421STI
MMSI: Yeah right!
Join Date: Jul 2013
Posts: 1,164
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Originally Posted by Pikey Dave
What happens if you say "yes"? How does the scam work?
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They foxtrot oscar with your boat, presumably?
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05 August 2014, 18:51
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Member
Country: UK - England
Town: Plymouth
Length: 10m +
Join Date: Nov 2007
Posts: 367
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Originally Posted by Pikey Dave
What happens if you say "yes"? How does the scam work?
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The scam starts by them offering to pay you substantially more than the cost of the charter using a credit card. They then ask you to transfer the difference to their 'agent' so that he can book their travel etc. The credit card turns out to be stolen, so gets charged back. You have then lost the money you paid to their 'agent'.
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Professional Boat Transport across England, Wales, Scotland, Europe & Scandinavia. Any boat up to 50ft.
https://www.boat-transportation.co.uk
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05 August 2014, 21:18
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Member
Country: UK - England
Town: South Yorks
Boat name: Black Pig
Make: Ribcraft
Length: 5m +
Engine: DF140a
MMSI: 235111389
Join Date: Feb 2008
Posts: 12,185
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Originally Posted by SW Boat Transport
The scam starts by them offering to pay you substantially more than the cost of the charter using a credit card. They then ask you to transfer the difference to their 'agent' so that he can book their travel etc. The credit card turns out to be stolen, so gets charged back. You have then lost the money you paid to their 'agent'.
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Ah! I see. But surely no one would be daft enough to fall for that one 
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05 August 2014, 21:19
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Member
Country: UK - England
Town: South Yorks
Boat name: Black Pig
Make: Ribcraft
Length: 5m +
Engine: DF140a
MMSI: 235111389
Join Date: Feb 2008
Posts: 12,185
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Originally Posted by Barrowboy
They foxtrot oscar with your boat, presumably?
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I'd assumed that the charter included a skipper/crew, not bareboat.
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05 August 2014, 21:27
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RIBnet supporter
Country: UK - England
Town: Hants
Length: 8m +
Engine: 300hp plus
Join Date: Sep 2007
Posts: 3,072
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Yep skippered charter and it must work as we regularly see similar, the address I have seen a few times too.
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05 August 2014, 22:10
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Member
Country: UK - Scotland
Town: Aberdeenshire
Boat name: Sula
Make: Ribcraft 4.8m
Length: 4m +
Engine: Tohatsu 70hp + aux
MMSI: 235087213
Join Date: Jun 2007
Posts: 4,663
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This scam seems to have been doing the rounds from yacht charters in Florida to bed and breakfast in New Zealand. 
www.scamwarners.com View topic - Yacht Charter Scam
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05 August 2014, 22:10
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Member
Country: UK - England
Town: Salisbury
Boat name: Blue C
Make: XS 600
Length: 6m +
Engine: 125hp Opti
MMSI: 235082826/235909566
Join Date: Jan 2004
Posts: 1,439
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We have had the same, but wanting to book courses, doing the same thing.
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05 August 2014, 22:28
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Member
Country: UK - Scotland
Town: Aberdeenshire
Boat name: Sula
Make: Ribcraft 4.8m
Length: 4m +
Engine: Tohatsu 70hp + aux
MMSI: 235087213
Join Date: Jun 2007
Posts: 4,663
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Out of interest I wanted to have a look to find out where exactly 34 St Vincent Street, Glasgow is? The only building I can find is this rather grand entrance next to the Skipton Building Society at 50 St Vincent Street. Anyone from Glasgow know what the building is? Please don't say it's the HQ for the serious fraud office! 
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Is that with or without VAT?
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05 August 2014, 22:37
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Member
Country: UK - England
Town: Salisbury
Boat name: Blue C
Make: XS 600
Length: 6m +
Engine: 125hp Opti
MMSI: 235082826/235909566
Join Date: Jan 2004
Posts: 1,439
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Originally Posted by spartacus
Out of interest I wanted to have a look to find out where exactly 34 St Vincent Street, Glasgow is? The only building I can find is this rather grand entrance next to the Skipton Building Society at 50 St Vincent Street. Anyone from Glasgow know what the building is? Please don't say it's the HQ for the serious fraud office! |
I know that place John Smith lives there !! 
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05 August 2014, 23:11
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Member
Country: UK - Scotland
Town: Glasgow
Boat name: stramash
Make: Tornado
Length: 5m +
Engine: Etec 90
Join Date: Feb 2006
Posts: 5,090
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Lol just google 34 St. Vincent Street Glasgow
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05 August 2014, 23:12
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Member
Country: UK - Scotland
Town: Glasgow
Boat name: stramash
Make: Tornado
Length: 5m +
Engine: Etec 90
Join Date: Feb 2006
Posts: 5,090
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Quote:
Originally Posted by ashbypower
I know that place John Smith lives there !! |
Or retailed there 
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05 August 2014, 23:14
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Member
Country: UK - Scotland
Town: Fort William
Make: Ribcraft 585
Length: 5m +
Engine: Yamaha F115
Join Date: Mar 2012
Posts: 2,920
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John has been busy!
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05 August 2014, 23:54
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Member
Country: UK - Scotland
Town: Central Belt of Scotland
Boat name: Puddleduck III
Make: Bombard
Length: 5m +
Engine: 50 HP
Join Date: Mar 2009
Posts: 2,066
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Quote:
Originally Posted by ashbypower
I know that place John Smith lives there !! |
we could always open a book to see if he does
www.firstaidatsea.co.uk
www.SPRmarine.co.uk
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06 August 2014, 09:22
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Member
Country: UK - England
Town: South Yorks
Boat name: Black Pig
Make: Ribcraft
Length: 5m +
Engine: DF140a
MMSI: 235111389
Join Date: Feb 2008
Posts: 12,185
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Just had a look on scamwarners, & it's as SWBT said, advance payment etc. I just can't believe that anyone would fall for it, let alone a business. It's the kind of obvious, blunt scam that you'd have zero sympathy for any numpty who got taken in.
PS, anybody want a cheap Betamax?
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06 August 2014, 17:40
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RIBnet supporter
Country: UK - England
Town: Hants
Length: 8m +
Engine: 300hp plus
Join Date: Sep 2007
Posts: 3,072
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Poor Ol John Smiff, has so many email addresses and each e mail has the same words and date of inquiry
John Smith <joh619v@gmail.com>
John Smith <joh06vv@gmail.com>
John Smith <joh06v@gmail.com>
This must work somewhere as he has tried before with a few operators locally I know.
Occasionally I feel like running with it to see how far we can keep him/her on the line and offering some ridiculous bathtub based in outer Mongolia! 
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06 August 2014, 18:21
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Member
Country: UK - England
Town: swanwick/hamble
Boat name: stormchaser
Make: custom rib
Length: 8m +
Engine: inboard/diesel
Join Date: Aug 2007
Posts: 3,848
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I'll take the charter and his money but wouldn't transfer the money back, just to see what he would do
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