Best supplier for kit to code a Rib

topbuoy · 01 August 2005, 09:12

Hi Guys

I am currently in the process of coding my 7.5 Ribeye and have a couple of questions.

Do you know the best place to buy all the gear, is there a one stop shop or is it a case of different suppliers for everything. Any suggestions please.

Do you know the approx. timescale as to when I will receive the OK to operate assuming I buy the kit now. I am a commercial Yatchmaster Offshore.

Thanks

Topbuoy

tim griffin · 01 August 2005, 09:16

Ocean Safety at Saxon Wharf

Cookee · 01 August 2005, 09:29

Cosalt have branches all over the place and can provide all the kit you need.

Rogue Wave · 02 August 2005, 06:07

talk to Jasper or Britt on 02380 448042 if they are in a good mood they ill get you quite a good discount from Ocean Safety or Plastimo

topbuoy · 02 August 2005, 08:03

Thank you for the tips

Topbuoy

Jon Brooks · 02 August 2005, 09:00

Ocean Safety everytime.

Nice bunch of boys and girls.
Also if you set up an account with them you can get Icom kit at trade price!

As a commercial operator you will have no problem getting a trade account.

Speak to Mandy or Dave tell them I sent you!!
02380 720800

Regards

Rogue Wave · 03 August 2005, 02:51

Messenger marine sell Ocean safety liferafts cheaper retail than the Ocean safety trade price! I think they are chichester way!

Are you going for coding or a local license

topbuoy · 03 August 2005, 08:49

I WAS INTENDING TO GO THROUGH THE NEW MGN 280 CODING BUT HAVE STARTED TO GET A FEW SUPRISES.

WHEN PRICING LIFERAFTS FOR 12 PEOPLE (EG 2 X 6 ) THE CODING INSISTS THAT THEY ARE ISAF BIULD STANDARD. THE PRICE OF EACH OF THESE RETAIL IS APPROX. £1500.

THE TOTAL BILL FOR CODING IS

£3000 FOR LIFE RAFTS
£300 FOR SOLAS B GRAB BAG
£120 YELLOW LIFEBUOYS
£150 TPA,S
£150 HANDHELD VHF
£60 FIRE EXTINGUISHERS
£160 NAVTEX (RECOMMENDED)
£200 ANCHORS
£80 MEDICAL KIT
ETC ETC

FIGURES WERE FROM PORT SOLENT AS A GUIDE

HAVING READ THE FORUM FOR A WHILE BEFORE EMBARKING ON THIS VENTURE THE AVERAGE COST OF CODING GEAR SEEMED TO BE £2000 APPROX.

AM I WAY OFF LINE

HELP PLEASE GUYS.

foxdog · 03 August 2005, 13:02

Hi

I think you will find its cheaper in the longrun to hire the liferaft 12man about £550 per year and no servicing hassle

also you need to factor in the cost of the surveying society and surveyor

topbuoy · 03 August 2005, 16:03

THANKS FOXDOG

SOUNDS A GOOD WAY FORWARD TO HIRE

REGARDS

TOPBUOY

DGR · 05 August 2005, 16:11

Topbuoy,

How many people are you going for coding for - and what category? Will 2 rafts fit on a 7.5metre RIB?!?

I've just coded my 7.8m Ribcraft to Cat 4 for 10 people - it was more expensive than I originally thought it would be, and took longer to do - but it wasn't that bad.

As you have found out, the real nasty shock is the liferaft - I rented one from Premium Liferaft (12 man) for £430-ish for 12 months. You will need to buy a mounting rack/frame if that is how you are going to mount it - they don't rent them. They will also sell you TPAs for £6.50, and some of the other kit you might need as well.

The other things I had to sort out (and wasn't expecting) were things like the auto fire extinguisher in the engine bay not counting towards the number of fire extinguishers, fitting a bilge alarm in the engine box and disconnecting the auto bilge pumps in the engine box (pollution regs). Oh, and the really annoying making 'ventilation' holes in my console to vent the batteries - which mow means that my nice and dry air-tight (ish) console which is full of electrics now seems to fill up with water overnight and is having a negative effect on my electrics (i.e. radio wouldn't turn on yesterday - pulled fuse out, scraped oxidation off, radio now works fine - v. annoying!!)

I got the rest of the equipment from the internet - but most of the major bits have actually come from Ocean Safety through a third party (but cheaper?).

ANYWAY...the other surprise was how long it took the paperwork to come through...

Dylan...

foxdog · 08 August 2005, 09:32

auto fire extinguisher in the engine bay. fitting a bilge alarm in the engine box and disconnecting the auto bilge pumps in the engine box (pollution regs). Oh, and the really annoying making 'ventilation' holes in my console to vent the batteries

Outboards do not require the above except for the Console venting A mushroom vent works very well and can be closed in bad weather

foxdog · 08 August 2005, 09:36

Also most Importantly find a surveyor you can talk to, because every thing is not set in stone .Look at all the threads about Freeboard height

topbuoy · 08 August 2005, 10:30

Usefull Feedback

Any Suggestions For Surveyors And How Long Did The Paper Work Take?

Topbuoy

Pete7 · 08 August 2005, 11:40

Happy to recommend Duncan (who posts on here as Searider) and unlike some surveyors I have met he actually knows what he is talking about when it comes to ribs.

http://www.ceproof.com/CEproof_Marine.htm

The paper trail took a couple of weeks through the YDSA.

Pete

DGR · 08 August 2005, 17:48

I realise that the regs for an inboard is different to an outboard - I was just pointing out that it wasn't as simple as I thought (hoped) it was going to be.

If using petrol outboards, and you have built in tanks, then you need to fit a hydrocarbon sensor - etc etc etc.

I used MECAL/MCG to code mine - as they have done the type approval work for the Ribcraft range it seemed like a good idea. The paperwork took nearly 3 weeks - and it was suposed to have been 'rushed'.

The surveyor was excellent - he even helped me fit the second fuel isolator while he was there!!

D...

donutsina911 · 09 August 2005, 14:04

I'll second that - duncan is first class - now works (owns) Saunders Morgan Harris surveyors in Southampton.

Rogue Wave · 09 August 2005, 16:01

Yeah Duncan good guy and not a nobber!

topbuoy · 10 August 2005, 13:04

HI

HAVE SPOKEN TO DUNCAN NAD WE ARE UNDERWAY

MANY THANKS

TOPBUOY

Searider · 10 August 2005, 15:11

At busy times of year it can take the Certifying Authority a while to process all of the paperwork.

The busiest time of year is between easter and Cowes Week - no surprises there. Why dont we all look at the coding of our boats in November when we all have plenty of time?

As an example it has been taking approximately 2 weeks to process the forms by the YBDSA in the busy periods. One week is typical out of season.

If anyone is in a real hurry they do now offer a fast track service but there is an extra cost to this.

Thanks for the recommendations chaps.