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02 December 2014, 13:23
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Member
Country: UK - England
Town: bicester
Length: no boat
Engine: outboard only
Join Date: Feb 2009
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Will it/they have CE decalls? Before I retired it was illegal to use them, and it was a hell of a job to get them CE aproved.
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02 December 2014, 17:17
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Country: UK - England
Town: Hamble
Length: 9m +
Join Date: Dec 2002
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I've bought a few new Merc motors from the USA over the years, and found it very hard to buy at the advertised price. They quite often include a "price rebate", but that's only available to a US customer. Also, alot of dealers out there won't ship overseas, it's either against their dealer agreement, of they can't be arsed. Some won't even ship inter-state.
Last pair of 200hp motors I bought were £400 each to ship, plus duty of 2.7% on cost of motor, shipping and insurance, then vat on the total. Barrus wouldn't even discuss warranty due to "grey import issues".
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02 December 2014, 17:18
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Member
Country: UK - England
Town: Hamble
Length: 9m +
Join Date: Dec 2002
Posts: 2,317
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Originally Posted by uncle al
Will it/they have CE decalls? Before I retired it was illegal to use them, and it was a hell of a job to get them CE aproved.
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In theory, CE isn't needed, if they're for commercial use.
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02 December 2014, 17:59
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Member
Country: UK - England
Town: Wild West
Boat name: No Boat
Make: No Boat
Length: under 3m
Join Date: Jan 2008
Posts: 5,306
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So IS the latest? ....any news/info with the U.S. option???
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12 December 2014, 19:48
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Member
Country: Netherlands
Town: Nijmegen
Boat name: Scary Canary
Make: home-built
Length: 6m +
Join Date: Mar 2008
Posts: 40
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Is it an option if Barrus buys these engines? Al-tough it is a bit weird...
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17 December 2014, 17:06
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Member
Country: UK - Channel Islands
Town: jersey
Boat name: Martini II
Make: Arctic 28/FC470
Length: 8m +
Engine: twin 225Opti/50hp 2t
MMSI: 235067688
Join Date: Jun 2005
Posts: 3,030
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I bought my optic's from the US, 2nd hand from a big ebay seller. Shipping was around £500. The only hard part was getting them from UK to CI without paying VAT, had to employ a specialist to take them into bond etc. £500 to get across the atlantic, another £500 to cross the channel!
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18 December 2014, 19:06
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Member
Country: UK - England
Town: South Yorks
Boat name: Black Pig
Make: Ribcraft
Length: 5m +
Engine: DF140a
MMSI: 235111389
Join Date: Feb 2008
Posts: 12,178
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Dirk Diggler
In theory, CE isn't needed, if they're for commercial use.
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That's a new one to me, how so?
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18 December 2014, 19:24
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RIBnet admin team
Country: UK - Scotland
Boat name: imposter
Make: FunYak
Length: 3m +
Engine: Tohatsu 30HP
MMSI: 235089819
Join Date: Sep 2005
Posts: 11,632
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Originally Posted by Pikey Dave
That's a new one to me, how so?
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CE marking only required for recreational craft directive compliance, so if it is not a recreational craft, it seems no need (as per 2 strokes etc).
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18 December 2014, 19:52
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Member
Country: UK - England
Town: South Yorks
Boat name: Black Pig
Make: Ribcraft
Length: 5m +
Engine: DF140a
MMSI: 235111389
Join Date: Feb 2008
Posts: 12,178
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Right. I thought that just about everything had to be CE marked these days. All our (industrial) kit that we install has to be CE marked, along with the tools that we use to install it, & the PPE that we wear. Even the raw steel that we use to fabricate structures has to be CE marked nowadays. I'm surprised that you'd be allowed to import/buy/use non-CE marked kit into the UK, obviously the Brussels politniks have missed a trick.
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18 December 2014, 20:33
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RIBnet admin team
Country: UK - Scotland
Boat name: imposter
Make: FunYak
Length: 3m +
Engine: Tohatsu 30HP
MMSI: 235089819
Join Date: Sep 2005
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Originally Posted by Pikey Dave
Right. I thought that just about everything had to be CE marked these days. All our (industrial) kit that we install has to be CE marked, along with the tools that we use to install it, & the PPE that we wear. Even the raw steel that we use to fabricate structures has to be CE marked nowadays. I'm surprised that you'd be allowed to import/buy/use non-CE marked kit into the UK, obviously the Brussels politniks have missed a trick.
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There are, if I am up to date, 20 product directives which enable you to attach CE marks to products. The product has to fall within the strict criteria that define that directive to be eligible for marking. One of the categories is electrical goods though so that obviously covers a huge range of stuff. PPE is another category, which in the workplace is prevalent, and construction products too... The other common ones are toys (which have some weird exclusions - so jigsaws are toys unless they have more than 500 pieces!), medical devices (only applies to human medicine - not animals), likewise the recreational craft rules only apply to boats (and engines) intended for leisure use.
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19 December 2014, 10:35
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Member
Country: UK - England
Town: Hamble
Length: 9m +
Join Date: Dec 2002
Posts: 2,317
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Pikey Dave
That's a new one to me, how so?
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I did say "in theory" but I'm pretty sure I'm correct. The Recreational Craft Directive is a bit of a minefield, and 16 years after it came into effect there's still rules that need sorting.
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