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17 June 2014, 09:01
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Buying Verado's
Probably a retorical question, to settle my own mind ....
Looking at replacing the fabulous Verado's on the back of the Parker.
My local dealer who has been fantastic over the last 4 years, is quoting £28k for the 2 engines.
With the current $/£ exchange rate, there are engines I could import direct from the States and other parts of the world for £13K for both.
Whilst there my be issues with warantee's, that is a huge price difference.
Thoughts please.
Steve
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17 June 2014, 09:31
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Quote:
Originally Posted by 250kts
Probably a retorical question, to settle my own mind ....
Looking at replacing the fabulous Verado's on the back of the Parker.
My local dealer who has been fantastic over the last 4 years, is quoting £28k for the 2 engines.
With the current $/£ exchange rate, there are engines I could import direct from the States and other parts of the world for £13K for both.
Whilst there my be issues with warantee's, that is a huge price difference.
Thoughts please.
Steve
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Sounds like you've answered your own question Steve.
That is a HUGE saving on what sounds a great deal anyway!..
IF you CAN import them OK...and for that sort of money!? Without too much extra exspence or duty...I'm sure with a little homework,and all the E.U legislation we keep hearing about,"Safeguarding our Consumer Rights" it could be well worth the extra hassell.
Not that they've been troublesome either by the sound of things ..that sort of saving pays for a lot up keep.
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17 June 2014, 09:50
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Any import duties on the USA price?
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17 June 2014, 09:52
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Also consider will the UK price be fully fitted/tested? What price if so to have your local dealer fit the USA ones? Will he provide dealer support on USA ones?
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17 June 2014, 10:31
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is that including the vat etc that will be applied once it hits our shores?
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17 June 2014, 10:34
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I'd check with Brunswick re. Warranties. Many manufacturers of worldwide available products put regional and national restrictions in place to protect their own dealerships. Re. duty. A relation recently imported a yank car from the US via holland, he apparently saved a good sum in both duty and vat.
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17 June 2014, 12:41
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What was the value of the warranty work you've had done to the existing motors? Three gear boxes IIRC and maybe some done as a goodwill gesture?
Not gonna be much goodwill in the water if you import...
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17 June 2014, 13:16
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Originally Posted by 250kts
that is a huge price difference.
Thoughts please.
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are you sure the US price is right / the engines exist, are new etc?
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17 June 2014, 14:33
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Thanks for the comments, all points appreciated.
UK price £23.5K + VAT
Overseas £12.2 + VAT
There is import duty from USA, but from "other" countries, this is zero.
All new in box and with Barrus warantee (1 year commercial).
Willk, I will stand on any roof top and higher and shout what great service I have had from Barrus and have already said so on this and other forums. I would argue that the counter-rotating gearbox was not fit for purpose and indeed they no longer make or sell it for the 250+ engines. However, where ever you buy a Verado from, they are ALL made in the same factory and therefore should be of the same quality, any faults or problems would not be down to where they were purchased (the existing engines were supllied and fitted by Parker in Poland). I am planning on using the same dealer to fit and service, as the standard of the service has been second to none.
Anyway, other than the gearbox issues, the engines themselves are still fabulous, using no more fuel than year 1 and behaving flawlessly. Why would I expect anything else?
Steve
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17 June 2014, 16:42
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[QUOTE=250kts;626439]Thanks for the comments, all points appreciated.
UK price £23.5K + VAT
Overseas £12.2 + VAT
There is import duty from USA, but from "other" countries, this is zero.
All new in box and with Barrus warantee (1 year commercial).
In that case if your worried about local support being a problem buy 3 engines you still save 8k & you have a full spare
if something big goes wrong use the spare ship the dud back to the supplier for warranty
if nothing goes wrong then you have an extra engine to sell on later at 100% profit cos you already saved 8k not even worth considering a uk engine with that much difference in cost
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18 June 2014, 14:06
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I think you will find that if the outboard has not been PDI'd by a dealer you have no warranty!
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18 June 2014, 14:07
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If buying from abroad you will have to pay for delivery, import duty at 10% and then 20% vat on top of that.
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18 June 2014, 15:21
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This may help answer a few questions, it says a dealer cannot ship within the us or export....
http://www.proboats.com/new_vehicle_...utboard+Motors
There is a verado forum that may be able to help
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18 June 2014, 15:21
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As they are new in the box, my Mercury dealer will PDI as he fits them on the boat.
Import tax factored into costs
Delivery is $557 (£327) with UPS
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18 June 2014, 15:29
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That's a massive saving Steve. My used 275hp wasn't much less than that!
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18 June 2014, 16:12
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Quote:
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This is why I said IF...in my reply.
I hope you can find a way Mate.
We really get shafted over here price wise on most things!!..Be a BIG shake up if they sort out the UK/US free trade agreement that's on the table! Has to be good news for all concerned.... With the exception of China Maybe ...I Live in Hope.
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20 June 2014, 10:59
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Thats also quite an attractive depreciation exercise. Do you depreciate these over three years, if so, you'd have an NPV on the books of not very much and you would probably be able to sell the lumps for what you paid for them. That helps the pension pot along quite nicely
Especially with the third engine which
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27 June 2014, 06:50
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Any idea how much for a Merc 150 four stroke from there?
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27 June 2014, 15:02
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Mercury Outboards
150L EFI 4S MERCURY - $9,500
150XL EFI 4S MERCURY - $10,600
150CXL EFI 4S MERCURY - $11,025
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02 December 2014, 05:05
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Might you be able to let me know where abouts your are getting these numbers from? Any chance it may have a U, A and an E in the names?
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