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Old 07 May 2011, 12:21   #1
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We have permission to run the water walking balls from a platform on the sea. (obviously with lines attached) :-)

From the beach to the platform the distance is going to be 50/75 yds. We are looking at ferrying people backwards and forward from the shore to the beach in a Dory style boat. Would this need to be coded in anyway?

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Will need to be coded, but only the minimum I would guess. Maybe even local authority rather than MCA.
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We really need a little more info (as in which beach).

Based on what you have said then Coding to Cat 6 (3NM from nominated point of departure with favourable daylight and good weather) would do. If however you are in categorised waters then a local authority inspection would suffice.
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I reckon that if the MCA get involved in any way at all you will need to have a liferaft with 100% back up, so that will be 2 - with grab bags.
Flares, a main and a kedge anchor, sound signal, a barometer
2 spare lifejackets, a litre of water, DSC vhf, liferings - the whole lot, as per the 'new' harmonised code

Then they will have to come and survey it, as it is a new build, so that will be 3 people, so approx £270 per hour all in, they will be there all day, then they will run out of time so you will have to pay their accom for the night.

Then prob that will work out just as well that they stayed because they will have forgotten to look at something, they will look at it and sting you for another hour or two, then say it was cheaper than getting them out from the office again ---- then will travel back to the office, you will not hear anything for approx 4 months, and they will then say No you will never be able to code it.

and thats just your Zorb's

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Do the Zorbs need coding.. what happens if they sink in 15ft of water with someone in them , the teather breaks and your support divers dont see ?
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Do the Zorbs need coding.. what happens if they sink in 15ft of water with someone in them , the teather breaks and your support divers dont see ?
That would be taking it quite to the extreme and to be honest that would not even come close to happening as we have strict guidelines in place to ensure that that cannot happen.
There would only be two balls on the water at any one time watched at all times with the operator being in overall control of the ball at all times. We would have two independent lines per ball so covering both circumstances.
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Do the Zorbs need coding.. what happens if they sink in 15ft of water with someone in them , the teather breaks and your support divers dont see ?
And a coding certificate would solve this common eventuality!!!!
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And a coding certificate would solve this common eventuality!!!!
We have operated on a couple of lakes exactly as we plan to do so on the sea only difference is there isn't as much red tape! Kinda daft as both pose the same risk element, in as much as depth and distance from shore etc etc

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That would be taking it quite to the extreme and to be honest that would not even come close to happening as we have strict guidelines in place to ensure that that cannot happen.
There would only be two balls on the water at any one time watched at all times with the operator being in overall control of the ball at all times. We would have two independent lines per ball so covering both circumstances.
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Was only trying to be funny - had my wife and kids in them - loved it !
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Erin and I came across a zorb 3 or 4 miles offshore whilst on passage from Jersey to Alderney last year. Took a while to figure out what it was as we approached, I was just glad there wasn't a body rolling around inside it
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We have operated on a couple of lakes exactly as we plan to do so on the sea only difference is there isn't as much red tape! Kinda daft as both pose the same risk element, in as much as depth and distance from shore.......
This might be your undoing, what about-

If it goes wrong on the lake they end up on a Lee shore, at sea in offshore wind they are blown out to sea

Sea state?

Tide?

More wind?

Access for emergency services?

Other water users?

Corrosive/damage from sea water?
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Jeeez

no reply from me being so sarcastic either...........

ask these guys

Wowballz – Zorb Balls on Skye


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Maybe you should operate aound Weymouth, apparently MCA reckon you don't need coding in that area !!!!
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