Commercial Endorsments

VrodBiker · 13 July 2011, 10:10

Hi, can anyone tell me what the difference is between an ML5 and an ENG1 medical if any and which one would be best to work on Coastal/Inland waters.

Thanks

Doug Stormforce · 13 July 2011, 22:23

Assuming you are working on UK vessels under 24m the ML5 would be fine, it can be used up to 60NM offshore. The ENG1 can be used for the same but also covers beyond the 60 mile limit and beyond the 24m limit.

The ML5 lasts 5 yrs, the ENG1 only 2 yrs.

The is more info on both on our website on the Seafarer's Medical info page

VrodBiker · 13 July 2011, 22:45

Thank You for the info very helpfull

DonutUK · 13 July 2011, 23:08

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SUBSTITUTES

The following can be used as alternatives to the ML5 (i.e. on UK vessels less than 200gt, less than 24m and operating in cat 2-6 waters and up to 60 miles from a safe haven).

HSE Divers Medical Fitness Certificate.
CAA Commercial pilots License
DVLA Group 2 Drivers Licence (HGV)

As i hold a current HGV licence does this mean then that i would not need to have the ML5?

Or do i have apply for the ML5 but claim an exemption from the medical?

SW Boat Transport · 13 July 2011, 23:35

You would need to send your D4 medical in with your commercial endorsement application. The normal requirement is for it to be under 3 months old though.

DonutUK · 14 July 2011, 00:15

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Originally Posted by SW RIB Charter

You would need to send your D4 medical in with your commercial endorsement application. The normal requirement is for it to be under 3 months old though.

Right...the last D4 medical i had was over 12 months ago.

Bit misleading that statement then......as i read it that anyone with a current HGV licence would be able to substitute that for the ML5.

Not that it matters to me...i have no need of the ML5 but it just peeked my curiosity!

wavelength · 14 July 2011, 21:01

various commercial employers/clients will only accept an ENG1 and will not accept the ML5
-- as far as I am concerned I would consider the ml5 to actually be more accurate as you do it with your own doctor who knows your history, unlike the mca doc for the ENG1 who doesnt know you from Adam and to whom a few untruths could be told.