Reply
 
Thread Tools Search this Thread
 
Old 28 January 2011, 20:41   #1
Member
 
The Grocer's Avatar
 
Country: UK - Scotland
Town: Kildonan, Arran
Boat name: Cowal (& Bennan)
Make: Quinquari Humber/RC
Length: 6m +
Engine: Suzuki DF150/DF175x2
MMSI: 235036953
Join Date: Jun 2006
Posts: 296
First Aid: Yes or no?

A conversation on the pier today has left some confusion here.

The guys who trundle to and fro across Lamlash Bay have arranged to renew their first aid certificates; where and with whom is immaterial.

They currently hold RYA PB2+CE tickets (they're not going far!) and they have been told by an approved training provider that the first aid cert. is essential, and for GBPxx he will arrange the course; but another person who should know says this is no longer the case and the First Aid cert. is not required: the RYA website would seem to agree with this.

Leaving aside the ethics of having someone who can apply a plaster on board or not, would someone on here who really understands care to clarify the point?

(I have no involvement other than as an interested observer; and I will be renewing my First Aid cert. when it expires later this year...)
__________________
Russell
The Grocer is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 28 January 2011, 20:48   #2
Member
 
chewy's Avatar
 
Country: UK - England
Town: Up Norf
Make: Avon SR4,Tremlett 23
Length: 4m +
Engine: Yam 55, Volvo 200
Join Date: Apr 2007
Posts: 5,217
I spoke to the RYA a while back and they said you needed it, went on their site and it said you didn't.
I'd email the RYA and await the response, least you have a name and proof if out happens.
__________________
chewy is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 28 January 2011, 20:51   #3
RIBnet supporter
 
C2 RIBS's Avatar
 
Country: UK - England
Town: Hants
Length: 8m +
Engine: 300hp plus
Join Date: Sep 2007
Posts: 3,072
Take a look at the last responses, in these replies it outlines requirements and first aid issues- hope this helps
http://rib.net/forum/showthread.php?...al+endorsement
__________________
C2 RIBS is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 28 January 2011, 21:17   #4
Member
 
The Grocer's Avatar
 
Country: UK - Scotland
Town: Kildonan, Arran
Boat name: Cowal (& Bennan)
Make: Quinquari Humber/RC
Length: 6m +
Engine: Suzuki DF150/DF175x2
MMSI: 235036953
Join Date: Jun 2006
Posts: 296
Thanks guys, 2 lessons learned:

Don't trust t'internet without backup data;

Use the search box...
__________________
Russell
The Grocer is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 29 January 2011, 07:53   #5
Member
 
Country: UK - England
Town: Southampton
Boat name: Yoda & Obi Wan
Make: XS700
Length: 7m +
Engine: 200 HP
Join Date: May 2004
Posts: 1,032
First Aid

FA is not required to get the CE but someone on board still needs to hold it.
__________________
Doug Stormforce is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 29 January 2011, 12:33   #6
Member
 
The Grocer's Avatar
 
Country: UK - Scotland
Town: Kildonan, Arran
Boat name: Cowal (& Bennan)
Make: Quinquari Humber/RC
Length: 6m +
Engine: Suzuki DF150/DF175x2
MMSI: 235036953
Join Date: Jun 2006
Posts: 296
Yawned my way through MGN 280 last night* - the relevant section is 2.8 in Annex 3 rather than the main body of the text. Thanks again folks.



* Not really - Control+F is my friend
__________________
Russell
The Grocer is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 29 January 2011, 22:09   #7
Member
 
Jon G's Avatar
 
Country: UK - England
Town: North
Boat name: PPT
Make: Ribcraft
Length: 6m +
Engine: Suzuki
MMSI: 07795600946
Join Date: Jun 2010
Posts: 139
Quote:
Originally Posted by Doug Stormforce View Post
FA is not required to get the CE but someone on board still needs to hold it.

As Doug has said, FA may not be required by the Skipper in this case however somebody on board must hold a relevant and valid FA cert.

Whilst the RYA have alot of good resources, the MCA are the government body for the Marine Industry in the UK and i would suggest consulting M notice 280 as suggested or contacting the MCA office in Southampton and speaking to the rep / advisor for the SCV code of practice.

The RYA first aid is more than sufficient by the sound of things however the certification needed may depend on the categorisation of water, coding of vessel and also the flag state.

Hopefully this helps,

if you have any further questions then please feel free to drop us an email.
__________________
Jon G - jon@jgnorth.co.uk - Mob: 07795 600 946, Liverpool: 0151 709 6426, Pwllheli: 01758 612 685. www.jgnorth.co.uk - www.propowerboats.co.uk
Jon G is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply


Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are Off
Pingbacks are Off
Refbacks are Off




All times are GMT. The time now is 18:06.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.8 Beta 1
Copyright ©2000 - 2024, vBulletin Solutions, Inc.