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21 November 2007, 13:10
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Country: UK - Scotland
Town: Inverkip
Make: Redbay 11m Cabin
Length: 10m +
Engine: 2 x Yamaha422Sti 275
Join Date: Feb 2003
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Dont think that there are many. We are coding a 7.7 delta that will require to operate Cat 3 at night sometimes and have to either build a "substantial" encolsure and send pictures to YBDSA for it or maybe allowed to operate with thet use of SOLAS survival suits for all on board-the jury is still out!!!
Many advertise Cat3 ribs but when you actually ask for a copy of their licence they have a restriction of 3 miles from land from sunset to sunrise.
The Redbay is Cat3 but with the limitation that she cannot be at sea for more than 24 hours as she does not have sanitary facilities- Apparently the old "bucket and chuck it" does not meet the requirements
Andy.
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21 November 2007, 13:43
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Country: UK - England
Town: Brighton
Length: 3m +
Join Date: May 2000
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Originally Posted by Searider
The rules state hydrostatic release required. "Alternative Provisions" are permissible but I will only accept these once I have seen the boat and the operator and discussed the proposal.
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So how much scope is there for the individual surveyor to decide what is an acceptable "alternative provision"?
John
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21 November 2007, 16:34
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exspyrd trayd membir
Country: Ireland
Town: inn wiliks hed
Make: Redbay 6.5
Length: 6m +
Engine: Twin Etec 90hp
Join Date: Aug 2003
Posts: 962
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Quote:
Originally Posted by John Kennett
So how much scope is there
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dat orl dipends onn de syze ov de wejj yew stikk inn iz bakk pokkit
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21 November 2007, 18:07
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Member
Country: UK - Scotland
Make: HumberOceanOffshore
Length: 8m +
Engine: Volvo KAD300/DPX
Join Date: Oct 2002
Posts: 5,596
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Originally Posted by Andy Gee
...The Redbay is Cat3 but with the limitation that she cannot be at sea for more than 24 hours as she does not have sanitary facilities- ..
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Would a wee portable toilet do? Provides an extra seat too.
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21 November 2007, 19:03
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RIBnet admin team
Country: UK - Scotland
Boat name: imposter
Make: FunYak
Length: 3m +
Engine: Tohatsu 30HP
MMSI: 235089819
Join Date: Sep 2005
Posts: 11,639
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Andy Gee
The Redbay is Cat3 but with the limitation that she cannot be at sea for more than 24 hours as she does not have sanitary facilities- Apparently the old "bucket and chuck it" does not meet the requirements
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The assessor must have some bladder/bowel control - 24 hours is a hell of a long time!
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21 November 2007, 19:07
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Member
Country: UK - Wales
Town: Southampton
Boat name: DynaMoHumm/ SRV/deja
Make: Avon8.4, 5.4 & 4.777
Length: 8m +
Engine: Cat3126 Yam 90 &70
MMSI: 42
Join Date: Dec 2003
Posts: 6,562
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Quote:
Originally Posted by jwalker
Would a wee portable toilet do? Provides an extra seat too.
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That would be useful going through the Corryvreckan rush
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21 November 2007, 19:08
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Member
Country: UK - Scotland
Make: HumberOceanOffshore
Length: 8m +
Engine: Volvo KAD300/DPX
Join Date: Oct 2002
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oops, sorry, didn't mean to post.
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22 November 2007, 10:34
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Member
Country: UK - Scotland
Town: Inverkip
Make: Redbay 11m Cabin
Length: 10m +
Engine: 2 x Yamaha422Sti 275
Join Date: Feb 2003
Posts: 567
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Quote:
Originally Posted by jwalker
Would a wee portable toilet do? Provides an extra seat too.
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Maybe would, is that an offer to come down and empty it when it needs it?
To be honest it really isn,t practicle to be at sea in a rib for more than 24h anyway. Been doing tidal surveys recently and they are long enough!!!
Andy
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22 November 2007, 10:46
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Member
Country: UK - Scotland
Town: Inverkip
Make: Redbay 11m Cabin
Length: 10m +
Engine: 2 x Yamaha422Sti 275
Join Date: Feb 2003
Posts: 567
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Rogue Wave
That would be useful going through the Corryvreckan rush
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Never really felt like I needed one at the Corryvrecken......Mull of Kintyre or Torr Head/Rathlin Sound though thats a different story!!
Andy
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22 November 2007, 21:05
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Member
Country: UK - England
Town: Plymouth
Length: 10m +
Join Date: Nov 2007
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We had 2 x 7m RIBs coded earler this year to Cat 3. They have the full 20 miles from a safe haven operational limit by daylight and can operate upto 3 miles from a safe haven at night providing that everyone wears suitable clothing including lifejackets and that radio contact is maintained with the shore.
They have deck mounted canister liferafts with quick release catches but not HRUs.
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24 November 2007, 16:25
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RIBnet supporter
Country: UK - England
Town: Hants
Length: 8m +
Engine: 300hp plus
Join Date: Sep 2007
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coding
Good to hear that South West coding is being set at a good standard with sensible conditions attached. It appears that code 3 is available for our craft providing we are sensible and set a 3 mile darkness limit with correct clothing and safe guards. This enables operators let their clients see incoming yachts during night time hours and meet them within a mileage limit. Seems very sensible.
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