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Old 21 November 2007, 13:10   #21
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Dont think that there are many. We are coding a 7.7 delta that will require to operate Cat 3 at night sometimes and have to either build a "substantial" encolsure and send pictures to YBDSA for it or maybe allowed to operate with thet use of SOLAS survival suits for all on board-the jury is still out!!!
Many advertise Cat3 ribs but when you actually ask for a copy of their licence they have a restriction of 3 miles from land from sunset to sunrise.
The Redbay is Cat3 but with the limitation that she cannot be at sea for more than 24 hours as she does not have sanitary facilities- Apparently the old "bucket and chuck it" does not meet the requirements
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Old 21 November 2007, 13:43   #22
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The rules state hydrostatic release required. "Alternative Provisions" are permissible but I will only accept these once I have seen the boat and the operator and discussed the proposal.
So how much scope is there for the individual surveyor to decide what is an acceptable "alternative provision"?

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Old 21 November 2007, 16:34   #23
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Old 21 November 2007, 18:07   #24
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...The Redbay is Cat3 but with the limitation that she cannot be at sea for more than 24 hours as she does not have sanitary facilities- ..
Would a wee portable toilet do? Provides an extra seat too.
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The Redbay is Cat3 but with the limitation that she cannot be at sea for more than 24 hours as she does not have sanitary facilities- Apparently the old "bucket and chuck it" does not meet the requirements
The assessor must have some bladder/bowel control - 24 hours is a hell of a long time!
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Old 21 November 2007, 19:07   #26
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Would a wee portable toilet do? Provides an extra seat too.
That would be useful going through the Corryvreckan rush
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Old 22 November 2007, 10:34   #28
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Would a wee portable toilet do? Provides an extra seat too.
Maybe would, is that an offer to come down and empty it when it needs it?
To be honest it really isn,t practicle to be at sea in a rib for more than 24h anyway. Been doing tidal surveys recently and they are long enough!!!
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Old 22 November 2007, 10:46   #29
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That would be useful going through the Corryvreckan rush
Never really felt like I needed one at the Corryvrecken......Mull of Kintyre or Torr Head/Rathlin Sound though thats a different story!!
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We had 2 x 7m RIBs coded earler this year to Cat 3. They have the full 20 miles from a safe haven operational limit by daylight and can operate upto 3 miles from a safe haven at night providing that everyone wears suitable clothing including lifejackets and that radio contact is maintained with the shore.

They have deck mounted canister liferafts with quick release catches but not HRUs.
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Good to hear that South West coding is being set at a good standard with sensible conditions attached. It appears that code 3 is available for our craft providing we are sensible and set a 3 mile darkness limit with correct clothing and safe guards. This enables operators let their clients see incoming yachts during night time hours and meet them within a mileage limit. Seems very sensible.
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