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21 July 2009, 00:33
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Larger then 12 passenger RIB?
I am trying to source a RIB to be used as a passenger ferry that is larger than 12+2. Is there such a creature, or are there reasons that a RIB does not come in a larger size?
Thanks!
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21 July 2009, 07:58
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Country: Sweden
Town: Stockholm
Boat name: Osprey & Ring
Make: Osprey & Ring
Length: 9m +
Engine: Plenty
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A Ring Powercraft 13m with seatings for 22.
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21 July 2009, 10:57
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Quote:
Originally Posted by avb3
I am trying to source a RIB to be used as a passenger ferry that is larger than 12+2. Is there such a creature, or are there reasons that a RIB does not come in a larger size?
Thanks!
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How many passengers do you want to carry? if our Parker 12 mtr Interceptor is too small we still have a 16 mtr Interceptor which can be adapted to carrying passengers.
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21 July 2009, 15:12
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Town: Southampton
Boat name: Yoda & Obi Wan
Make: XS700
Length: 7m +
Engine: 200 HP
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The reason for 12 is to do with the MCA coding for commercial use
Vessels can be coded for more than 12 passengers but require more extensive coding and higher qualified skippers
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21 July 2009, 15:51
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Doug Stormforce
The reason for 12 is to do with the MCA coding for commercial use
Vessels can be coded for more than 12 passengers but require more extensive coding and higher qualified skippers
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I assume you are talking about a British flagged boat. Our operations will be in the Caribbean, although one of the islands is still a British colony, so MCA may apply (we are in the process of determining that right now).
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21 July 2009, 16:03
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Quote:
Originally Posted by avb3
I assume you are talking about a British flagged boat. Our operations will be in the Caribbean, although one of the islands is still a British colony, so MCA may apply (we are in the process of determining that right now).
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this is our Parker 900Baltic operating from the Isle of Grenada 12 passengers and a 2 man crew
http://www.grenadaseafaris.com/
engines: twin Mercury Optimax 225
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22 July 2009, 05:44
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Thanks for all the replies.
I should probably been more specific. I am looking for an enclosed (hardtop or softtop, either is OK) unit, with standard chair seating. This is intended to be used as an inter-island passenger ferry/taxi, so an "adventure" type boat is not appropriate.
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22 July 2009, 08:21
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Quote:
Originally Posted by avb3
Thanks for all the replies.
I should probably been more specific. I am looking for an enclosed (hardtop or softtop, either is OK) unit, with standard chair seating. This is intended to be used as an inter-island passenger ferry/taxi, so an "adventure" type boat is not appropriate.
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you most probably want something like this one
www.awesomeadventure.com.au
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22 July 2009, 19:54
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carrying more than 12 passengers you will be classed as a passenger ship under International Marine organisation (IMO) rules. as far as i am aware there are very few flags (which would be the local certifying authority,as the MCA are in the UK) that have special rules for domestic passenger ships like the UK does (i.e classes 4,5,6) The amount of gear you would have to carry to satisfy the certification requirements would not make sense financially let alone the space you would require.
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22 July 2009, 21:52
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Town: swansea
Boat name: Too Blue
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Come on - the Carribean is known for it's laid back attitude - and greasing the right palms is not unheard of...............
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24 July 2009, 03:58
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Well... it's time to re-think this whole over 12+2 size thing.
1. Although I have spent significant time in the North Pacific waters skippering a private 28' fishing boat, none of it counts for commercial time. It would appear it would take me 2 years to get a skippers license.
2. Most Caribbean jurisdictions have virtually the same rules as the MCA (see http://www.stkittsnevisregistry.net/...SCV%20Code.pdf) which is the safety code for passenger boats there. (so much for lax rules)
I am not sure if a business model can be developed where I actually have to hire a skipper.
Damn!
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25 July 2009, 11:30
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Boat name: Yoda & Obi Wan
Make: XS700
Length: 7m +
Engine: 200 HP
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Quote:
Originally Posted by avb3
Although I have spent significant time in the North Pacific waters skippering a private 28' fishing boat, none of it counts for commercial time. It would appear it would take me 2 years to get a skippers license.
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I think you have been miss informed. Which skipper's ticket are you after. All of the following will recognise skippering time on board a private boat - Advanced certificate of Competence
- Coastal Skipper Certificate of Competence
- Yachtmaster Offshore / Ocean Certificate of Competence
If you want to drive somethig over 200 tonnes then you will need commercial qualifying sea time, which is not unreasonable wjhen you consider a vessel that size may have tenders bigger than your fishing boat.
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