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22 November 2008, 13:57
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Member
Country: UK - England
Town: Harlow, Essex
Boat name: On Water Training
Length: no boat
Join Date: Apr 2007
Posts: 80
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Still reasonably active as a freelancer but this is mainly due to the sail rather than power.
I note that on some courses / trips as Skipper, individuals are buying saioling weekends in the Solent and South Coast for less than £200.
One such recent trip was a weekend cruise and although there were 7 plus me on board, each person had only paid £145 for the whole weekend including fuel, berthing etc...
An interest was recently taken in Sunsails closure of the Largs base - another reflection perhaps of harder times...
Each is trying to their own thing to get money flowing and with harder times, it is certainly a buyers market - far better to make a few quid and keep the work flowing than go for the bigger profit margins that we have arguably, all enjoyed in more fruitful times...
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23 November 2008, 09:32
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Member
Country: UK - England
Town: Portsmouth
Boat name: Not sure
Make: ABC/Priddy
Length: 10m +
Engine: 2 x 500 FPT
Join Date: Jul 2001
Posts: 928
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Or it could be that owning a boat does not represent good value for money? Marinas are too expensive and pubs and restuarants around the waters edge have a habit of ripping people off.
I, like lot of other boat owners have no interest what so ever in boating in the South of England. When you calculate the purchase, running purchasing all the wet weather gear for the UK's climate along with depriciation , it is cheaper to charter something in the med or warmer climes.
I personal feel that although we are in a deep depresion brought about by the media , people are still spending money having "Fun"
Perhaps the "Fun" has gone out of UK boating?
Alan P
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25 November 2008, 15:47
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Member
Country: UK - England
Town: Dorset & Hants
Boat name: Streaker/Orange
Make: Avon/Ribcraft
Length: 4m +
Engine: 50Yam/25 Mariner
Join Date: Apr 2007
Posts: 5,551
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So can everyone ( boaters) help out by not always looking for the absolute cheapest deal on the net & supporting the local chandlers / yards etc ? Or is it a case of everyone for themselves ( until you have to travel 80 miles for part as the local guy is out of business due to the 'downturn'.
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25 November 2008, 15:52
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Country: UK - England
Town: Rutland
Length: no boat
Join Date: May 2006
Posts: 2,500
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Blackroady
So can everyone ( boaters) help out by not always looking for the absolute cheapest deal on the net & supporting the local chandlers / yards etc ? Or is it a case of everyone for themselves ( until you have to travel 80 miles for part as the local guy is out of business due to the 'downturn'.
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That seems to be the British way with everything we buy
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25 November 2008, 23:03
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Country: UK - England
Town: The wilds of Wiltshire
Boat name: Dominator
Make: SR5.4
Length: 7m +
Engine: Yam 85
MMSI: 235055163
Join Date: Jul 2005
Posts: 13,069
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Blackroady
So can everyone ( boaters) help out by not always looking for the absolute cheapest deal on the net & supporting the local chandlers / yards etc ? Or is it a case of everyone for themselves ( until you have to travel 80 miles for part as the local guy is out of business due to the 'downturn'.
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I've already got to travel 30 miles to the 'local' guy...
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26 November 2008, 09:43
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Member
Country: UK - England
Town: Dorset & Hants
Boat name: Streaker/Orange
Make: Avon/Ribcraft
Length: 4m +
Engine: 50Yam/25 Mariner
Join Date: Apr 2007
Posts: 5,551
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Nos - I have a solution - move house ! Notonly wil this allow you to be closer to your local boats places , but you can help the economy by throwing money at something else ( apart from boats) that will plummet in value in the next year !
Surely a goer ?
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26 November 2008, 17:57
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RIBnet admin team
Country: UK - England
Town: The wilds of Wiltshire
Boat name: Dominator
Make: SR5.4
Length: 7m +
Engine: Yam 85
MMSI: 235055163
Join Date: Jul 2005
Posts: 13,069
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Blackroady
Nos - I have a solution - move house ! Notonly wil this allow you to be closer to your local boats places , but you can help the economy by throwing money at something else ( apart from boats) that will plummet in value in the next year !
Surely a goer ?
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Are you in government?
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30 November 2008, 13:39
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Member
Country: UK - England
Town: Dartmouth
Boat name: TIDEL III
Make: AVON SEARIDER
Join Date: Jun 2003
Posts: 823
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very busy loads of orders including new halmatic builds ,lots of retubes possibly due to downturn in new boat sales due to credit crunch .having to work today instead of going to church .
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30 November 2008, 13:45
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Member
Country: UK - Channel Islands
Town: Alderney
Length: no boat
Join Date: Sep 2006
Posts: 3,047
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Originally Posted by paul tilley
... lots of retubes possibly due to downturn in new boat sales due to credit crunch...
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We are certainly seeing this, lots of people asking about tube repairs and even a couple of tube replacements (as quoted for by Paul - thanks ) so it does look very much like there are aspects of the marine industry and in particular repair/refit work that remains strong.
People are tightening their belts, but not necessarily selling the trousers.
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03 December 2008, 19:18
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Member
Country: UK - Wales
Town: Southampton
Boat name: DynaMoHumm/ SRV/deja
Make: Avon8.4, 5.4 & 4.777
Length: 8m +
Engine: Cat3126 Yam 90 &70
MMSI: 42
Join Date: Dec 2003
Posts: 6,562
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Quote:
Originally Posted by paul tilley
very busy loads of orders including new halmatic builds ,lots of retubes possibly due to downturn in new boat sales due to credit crunch .having to work today instead of going to church .
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Glad to here i you Heathen Bstd, make sure you keep a slot open for my work. I only need one more corporate signature and we are off to Devon
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06 December 2008, 23:27
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Member
Country: UK - England
Town: Colchester
Boat name: Pamela
Make: Valiant
Length: 5m +
Engine: Mariner 80 EFi
MMSI: 235059536
Join Date: Jun 2007
Posts: 38
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I am not primarily in the nautical market, but I have to say I am very pessimistic about future prospects. In my business (survey) enquiries are down around 50% and margins are extremely tight. We have taken steps to minimise costs and made some redundancies, more are certain I fear.
I think anyone who relies on discretionary spending should plan for really lean times for about two years, followed by a slow recovery. My brother though, who is recession proof it seems, has just bought himself a large yacht at a stunningly low price. As usual, a recession is prime bargain territory for those with cash. Maybe he'll let me polish the new yacht if I beg? Bastard ;-)
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07 December 2008, 00:31
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Member
Country: UK - England
Town: Crawley
Boat name: BerryBuoys
Make: BananaShark
Length: 6m +
Engine: Mercury 115 EFi
MMSI: 235068187
Join Date: Sep 2007
Posts: 129
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Quote:
Originally Posted by J.C.
...My brother though, who is recession proof it seems, has just bought himself a large yacht at a stunningly low price...
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What does your brother do for a living then? I'm looking for a recession-proof job myself, or at least a recession-proof employer who needs my skills
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07 December 2008, 16:01
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Member
Country: UK - Wales
Town: CONWY/CORFU
Boat name: The Full Morty II
Make: Air Craft/Shakespere
Length: 8m +
Engine: Etec 300hp/Etec150hp
Join Date: Feb 2001
Posts: 603
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Quote:
Originally Posted by ianhappy
What does your brother do for a living then? I'm looking for a recession-proof job myself, or at least a recession-proof employer who needs my skills
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Traffic warden, arrive-alive police camera van, v.a.t inspectors or any other government run 'fine and tax job'
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