ML5 medical

PeterM · 04 January 2011, 18:49

Where can I get 'examined' ??

An doc ? or my own doc ?

Google has failed me .......

Pete

chewy · 04 January 2011, 18:52

I think this has to be an ML5 registered Dr, I know when I spoke to Medacs they said it was dead mans shoes.

C2 RIBS · 04 January 2011, 18:59

Just renewed mine and printed ML5 off web and then took to local GP , left it for her to do but called in to do blood pressure and colour blind test. So your own GP should do it and tick all boxes before signing forms and also the ML5 certificate. Costs vary from GP surgeries

PeterM · 04 January 2011, 19:14

Found a list.... reminds me of the Aviation lists...oh the joy !

http://www.mcga.gov.uk/c4mca/mcga07-...ist.htm#dorset

wavelength · 04 January 2011, 19:50

always done ML5 at own doctor.
ENG1 has to be approved doctor.
ENG! allegedly stricter according to local opinion.
In reality ML5 with your own doctor is mainly history and he knows more about you than you do. ENG1 and approved doctor (who the local skippers said was a B***** and red stamped folk) was in my opinion less strict as he didnt know the applicants and had no records for them.

Steve_B · 04 January 2011, 22:00

Pete

If you still have your Class 1 Aviation medical, you can use that. Get some prices, sometimes the charge for a Class 1 is less than that for an ML5!
I can give you some names for Aviation Medicals or look them up online
Steve

Rogue Wave · 04 January 2011, 22:10

Your GP can do it I agree with C2 and wavelength Avoid Eng I doctors at all costs. I need an ENG ! for working abroad butcan work in the UK on an ML5

My GP signs my ML5 off for 5 years (It's the only tyime he sees me fortunately)
then about three months Later I go for an ENG1 and the approved doctor tells me I'm 6 stone overweight and THAT I've got about 12 days to live. That BS has been going on for about 12 years now.

Anybody in their right mind can seee I'm only 50kg overweight

PS If your using any medical (your Class1 maybe) to get a commercial endorsement on a Powerboat ticket it has to be less than three months old

One of the reasons the commercial medical is so strict is no company wants to have a death or medivac ob board ship registered as an LTI

Kraken999 · 04 January 2011, 22:17

http://www.mcga.gov.uk/c4mca/waterme...termen_ml5.pdf

Full instructions on page 1 of the ML5.

Regards.

chewy · 05 January 2011, 10:20

Quote:

Originally Posted by wavelength

always done ML5 at own doctor.
ENG1 has to be approved doctor.
ENG! allegedly stricter according to local opinion.
In reality ML5 with your own doctor is mainly history and he knows more about you than you do. ENG1 and approved doctor (who the local skippers said was a B***** and red stamped folk) was in my opinion less strict as he didnt know the applicants and had no records for them.

ENG1 was what I was thinking of.

PeterM · 05 January 2011, 12:14

Quote:

Originally Posted by 250kts

Pete

If you still have your Class 1 Aviation medical, you can use that. Get some prices, sometimes the charge for a Class 1 is less than that for an ML5!
I can give you some names for Aviation Medicals or look them up online
Steve

Alas I let the Aviation medical expire in September along with all the ratings.....I think I'd need another ECG nowanyway so it all just gets daft at that point cost wise.

Put a call in to my GP who is very unsure .. so I have emailed the form to her to 'consider' explaining its mostly yes/no answers with a small amount of time for her to do blood pressure etc.

Waiting for a call back.

Thanks for all the advice - hopefuly will get sorted soon.

Pete

PeterM · 20 January 2011, 14:01

So after endless calls to & from the docs (who had the form, lost it , had it again, I emailed it again twice, lost it , I dropped it in & managed to fight past the receptionist etc etc ) its £95 and being 'done' when I am back from abroad....by another doc as my GP on then holiday (oh and thought I had only just become a patient as I have seen her once in 9 years ! )

So if I fail the exam tomorrow

I can cancel it & save the money !

I'm assuming I can send all the papers off (assuming I pass - VHF/1st aid/ S'survival/medical/APB & exam) in a few weeks when I have everything I need ?

Steve_B · 20 January 2011, 16:41

Quote:

Originally Posted by PeterM

So after endless calls to & from the docs (who had the form, lost it , had it again, I emailed it again twice, lost it , I dropped it in & managed to fight past the receptionist etc etc ) its £95 and being 'done' when I am back from abroad....by another doc as my GP on then holiday (oh and thought I had only just become a patient as I have seen her once in 9 years ! )

So if I fail the exam tomorrow

I can cancel it & save the money !

I'm assuming I can send all the papers off (assuming I pass - VHF/1st aid/ S'survival/medical/APB & exam) in a few weeks when I have everything I need ?

Failing is not an option - dont go there. Think clearly and you'll be fine

Paul will hold the paperwork for you and send it all off together if you ask
Take what you have with you

Say hello to T

PeterM · 21 January 2011, 22:59

So - back from yet another freezing cold night on the water.. - what a way to spend Friday evening !

But as I passed the exam I am quite happy... I'll give the full story to those I am sure I will see in due course. Suffice to say it was calm with a lot of moonlight which made it simpler .....

But if anyone wants a skipper in the Poole / Southampton /Portsmouth area please let me know ! ( but consider I am now jetting off 4000miles to 32' sunshine for 2 weeks ! )

Many thanks to everyone who has helped - several beers owed !!

Oh and I still have your light/shapes guide...

alant1 · 11 February 2011, 11:44

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rogue Wave

Your GP can do it I agree with C2 and wavelength Avoid Eng I doctors at all costs. I need an ENG ! for working abroad butcan work in the UK on an ML5

My GP signs my ML5 off for 5 years (It's the only tyime he sees me fortunately)
then about three months Later I go for an ENG1 and the approved doctor tells me I'm 6 stone overweight and THAT I've got about 12 days to live. That BS has been going on for about 12 years now.

Anybody in their right mind can seee I'm only 50kg overweight

PS If your using any medical (your Class1 maybe) to get a commercial endorsement on a Powerboat ticket it has to be less than three months old

One of the reasons the commercial medical is so strict is no company wants to have a death or medivac ob board ship registered as an LTI

ML5, is good for operating up to 60 Nm offshore.

MCA require ENG1 for operating "At sea", 60+

Rogue Wave · 11 February 2011, 14:59

I understand the distance difference between the two medicals but can you tell me why the two medicals have such vastly different views on the BMI index?

Given the distance restriction does that mean I can work on a German Windfarm Job only 12 miles offshore on an ML5 or is the Eng1 the only ticket for working abroad reardless of distance offsore?

Over

wavelength · 11 February 2011, 15:26

our company now insists on ENG1 no matter where we are working. Did mine in Whitehaven when we were docked in there. Despite horror stories from others he was a pussycat really, nice guy and probably short sighted cos he passed me.

Doug Stormforce · 11 February 2011, 16:04

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rogue Wave

I understand the distance difference between the two medicals but can you tell me why the two medicals have such vastly different views on the BMI index?

Given the distance restriction does that mean I can work on a German Windfarm Job only 12 miles offshore on an ML5 or is the Eng1 the only ticket for working abroad reardless of distance offsore?

Over

Stu

The ML5 is a UK only medical that is less stringent than the ENG1. The ENG1 is used by a large number of countries, it is also STCW compliant.

If you are working on a Yachtmaster, adv pwr, etc on a UK vessel then ML5 is fine but if with another flag state then they wont know what it is.