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13 January 2013, 19:57
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Member
Country: UK - England
Town: Hamble
Boat name: Worth the wait
Make: Parker
Length: 7m +
Engine: Outboard
Join Date: Apr 2008
Posts: 1,446
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Mobile Card Payments
Does anyone have experience of the iZettle account/card reader?
It is relatively new to UK and used in conjunction with iPhone/iPad.
Feedback appreciated
Regards
Steve
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13 January 2013, 20:57
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Member
Country: UK - England
Town: surrey
Boat name: el nino
Make: tornado humber
Length: 7m +
Engine: outboards
Join Date: Jun 2009
Posts: 958
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what good idea ? what do they charge ?
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13 January 2013, 21:02
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RIBnet supporter
Country: UK - England
Town: Hants
Length: 8m +
Engine: 300hp plus
Join Date: Sep 2007
Posts: 3,072
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13 January 2013, 21:22
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Member
Country: UK - England
Town: surrey
Boat name: el nino
Make: tornado humber
Length: 7m +
Engine: outboards
Join Date: Jun 2009
Posts: 958
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just seen that bit more than paypal tho
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13 January 2013, 22:13
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Member
Country: France
Town: Côte d'Azur
Boat name: Beaver Patrol
Make: Avon Searider SR4
Length: 4m +
Join Date: Jan 2004
Posts: 5,934
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I signed up for this recently. Having signed up I've since discovered:
-It's hard to accept Visa
-The limits per transaction are quite low (so no good when selling boats/engines etc)
-It takes up to 14 days for the money to hit your bank account!!
-You can't do transactions over the phone.
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13 January 2013, 22:36
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Member
Country: UK - England
Town: surrey
Boat name: el nino
Make: tornado humber
Length: 7m +
Engine: outboards
Join Date: Jun 2009
Posts: 958
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So what max payment ? Tim
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13 January 2013, 22:59
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Member
Country: UK - Scotland
Town: Stonehaven
Make: Avon Sea Rider 5.4
Length: 5m +
Engine: 50Hp Mercury 4' EFI
Join Date: Jul 2011
Posts: 290
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I looked at something similar for the smartphone only down side was no paper receipt, there was an option to email it.
My thought was would I be comfortable putting my card into someone's phone. ...reputable company or not.
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14 January 2013, 06:27
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Member
Country: UK - England
Town: Hoylake, Wirral
Boat name: no name
Make: n/a
Length: no boat
Engine: n/a
MMSI: n/a
Join Date: May 2012
Posts: 43
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To be honest I wouldn't be happy putting my card into a phone or any portable device that's not within the companies location especially if it doesn't prodiuce a paper receipt for me.
From a company view point i don't want to wait 14 days for my money nor do i want to pay 2.75% on every transaction. I can't remember waht we pay now but iot's certainly well less than 2.75% and we only pay about 45p for debit cards. our bank account is credited within 48 hours for all our card payments (which must be over 80% of our business excluding invoice payments)
We've struggled with the 'Card Holder Not Present' for some time and with the change in banking regulations we can't now, just like you, accept emailed card details. We now have a direct computer access system which works through our Merchant Services provider and it works just as well as inserting a card into the standard terminal. We only take payments at the base so if we're off site and need to process a card we do a card holder not present transaction back at base.
Why not try to have someone abvailable to do the CHNP transaction for you back at base rather than this system which isn't, in my view, in your favour.
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14 January 2013, 08:28
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RIBnet admin team
Country: UK - Scotland
Boat name: imposter
Make: FunYak
Length: 3m +
Engine: Tohatsu 30HP
MMSI: 235089819
Join Date: Sep 2005
Posts: 11,632
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Steve I am assuming you currently use a proper machine with a 3G/GPRS transmitter built in? As a customer that looks professional and suggests some confidence in handing over your card to a guy in a glorified ice cream van* selling boat trips and who may or may not disappear next week, especially if I am on holiday many miles from home.
I am aware of izettle (and others who are still stateside only I think), most consumers will not be. If a street vendor had one it would suggest to me (i) there is some odd reason they don't have a proper card machine? OR (ii) they do very small number of C/card transactions and this is "just in case". I don't think either applies to you.
* [no offence intended for your particular operation which may inspire more confidence!]
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14 January 2013, 08:48
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RIBnet supporter
Country: UK - England
Town: Hants
Length: 8m +
Engine: 300hp plus
Join Date: Sep 2007
Posts: 3,072
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Steve world pay have issues us a pay as you go terminal linked to phone app, initially client had to be present but now coming on line with tele sales. Proper card unit rather than a clip on
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14 January 2013, 08:49
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RIBnet supporter
Country: UK - England
Town: Hants
Length: 8m +
Engine: 300hp plus
Join Date: Sep 2007
Posts: 3,072
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Quote:
Originally Posted by C2 RIBS
Steve world pay have issues us a pay as you go terminal linked to phone app, initially client had to be present but now coming on line with tele sales. Proper card unit rather than a clip on
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We use this as most bookings are advanced sales so done on banker transfer on invoice . Don't do enough face to face to justify monthly fees
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14 January 2013, 10:21
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Member
Country: UK - Scotland
Town: Stonehaven
Make: Avon Sea Rider 5.4
Length: 5m +
Engine: 50Hp Mercury 4' EFI
Join Date: Jul 2011
Posts: 290
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In 2012 all my trips were cash only, as we operate a hardboat all out trips are under £20, 1 person only this year asked to pay by card.
With trips say at £36 each and a family wanting to pay the chance of having that kind of cash to hand is slim.
I'm looking into online booking as I feel that is the answer, save me time with bookings, taking card payments and probably phone calls and if they still want to pay cash on the day then fine.
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14 January 2013, 13:27
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Member
Country: UK - England
Town: Southampton
Make: Ballistic
Length: 7m +
Engine: Yam 225
Join Date: Jun 2010
Posts: 1,003
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14 January 2013, 13:57
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Member
Country: UK - England
Town: Hamble
Boat name: Worth the wait
Make: Parker
Length: 7m +
Engine: Outboard
Join Date: Apr 2008
Posts: 1,446
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Thanks for all the feedback.
I too felt uncomfortable about the iPhone plug-in device, but then I though I might just be "old fashioned".
To be honest 40% of trade is on-line bookings and the rest seem happy to pay cash (even large amounts) as we have a cash point 25m away. We are looking into the WorldPay terminal, but the monthly payments do make it less attractive.
I am surprised that it takes 14 days, as all the info put out be Izettle states 4 days!
Thanks as always for the feedback.
Regards, the guy in the glorified ice-cream van
Steve
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14 January 2013, 14:03
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RIBnet supporter
Country: UK - England
Town: Hants
Length: 8m +
Engine: 300hp plus
Join Date: Sep 2007
Posts: 3,072
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Quote:
Originally Posted by 250kts
Thanks for all the feedback.
I too felt uncomfortable about the iPhone plug-in device, but then I though I might just be "old fashioned".
To be honest 40% of trade is on-line bookings and the rest seem happy to pay cash (even large amounts) as we have a cash point 25m away. We are looking into the WorldPay terminal, but the monthly payments do make it less attractive.
I am surprised that it takes 14 days, as all the info put out be Izettle states 4 days!
Thanks as always for the feedback.
Regards, the guy in the glorified ice-cream van
Steve
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Stve. see if they will offer you the pay as you go worldpay machine, we have it as FSB members and this is roled out now with client not present also. No monthly pay charges so winter no fess and transaction charges reasonable
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14 January 2013, 18:20
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Member
Country: UK - Scotland
Town: Stonehaven
Make: Avon Sea Rider 5.4
Length: 5m +
Engine: 50Hp Mercury 4' EFI
Join Date: Jul 2011
Posts: 290
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Noticed PayPal offering a virtual terminal and built in merchant account. Don't know enough about it but thought I would post link
https://www.paypal.com/uk/webapps/mpp/pro
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14 January 2013, 18:46
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RIBnet admin team
Country: UK - Scotland
Boat name: imposter
Make: FunYak
Length: 3m +
Engine: Tohatsu 30HP
MMSI: 235089819
Join Date: Sep 2005
Posts: 11,632
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Ruari, Paypal Virtual Terminal can only be used for cardholder not present transactions (i.e. telesales) - not for processing payments with a card.
For those of you with web booking facilities - would it actually be easier / cheaper to have a touchscreen (e.g. tablet) mounted at your booking office that is "locked" to your website and lets the user buy an immediate ride themselves? Might be some technical rules about using webstuff for cardholder present sales... but you could even let them generate a voucher or code to hand over.
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14 January 2013, 19:28
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Member
Country: UK - England
Town: Margate / Ramsgate
Boat name: Bumbl
Make: Scorpion
Length: 8m +
Engine: Yanmar diesel
Join Date: Feb 2002
Posts: 2,837
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We use virtual terminal at exhibitions for customer present transcations.
Had to jump through some extra hurdles and they ring fence the money for 30 days.
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14 January 2013, 19:31
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Member
Country: UK - Scotland
Town: Central Belt of Scotland
Boat name: Puddleduck III
Make: Bombard
Length: 5m +
Engine: 50 HP
Join Date: Mar 2009
Posts: 2,066
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Poly
Ruari, Paypal Virtual Terminal can only be used for cardholder not present transactions (i.e. telesales) - not for processing payments with a card.
For those of you with web booking facilities - would it actually be easier / cheaper to have a touchscreen (e.g. tablet) mounted at your booking office that is "locked" to your website and lets the user buy an immediate ride themselves? Might be some technical rules about using webstuff for cardholder present sales... but you could even let them generate a voucher or code to hand over.
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easyrentacar used to do this of still...
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