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03 December 2008, 18:17
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Member
Country: UK - England
Town: Southampton
Boat name: Darwin
Make: Ribeye
Length: 6m +
Engine: 150hp Yamaha
Join Date: Jul 2004
Posts: 382
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New fuel duty
The new fuel duty from 1st December is:
Unleaded - £0.5235p/l and Red is now, and wait for this number - £0.10007p/l.
I got this from the revenue this afternoon.
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10 December 2008, 17:16
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Member
Country: UK - England
Town: Towcester
Boat name: Rupert
Make: Rupert R7
Length: 7m +
Engine: Suzuki 200
Join Date: Nov 2002
Posts: 332
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what proceedure?
Hi
Re using diesel for commecial use.
What is the proceedure? do you fill up and then claim the duty back? or by 'declaring commercial' do you not pay the duty at point of purchase?
ps I have understood the new 60/40 split for the occasions the boat is used for leisure only.
many thanks Paul
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10 December 2008, 17:49
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Member
Country: UK - England
Town: Leighton Buzzard
Length: 5m +
Join Date: Sep 2005
Posts: 270
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Paul Beaurain
Hi
Re using diesel for commecial use.
What is the proceedure? do you fill up and then claim the duty back? or by 'declaring commercial' do you not pay the duty at point of purchase?
ps I have understood the new 60/40 split for the occasions the boat is used for leisure only.
many thanks Paul
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We just declare comercial when we fill up the commercial vessels and do not pay the duty, and what percentage we want for the pleasure boats at this time of year thats 10/90 (10% propulsion 90% generation/heating)
Richard
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10 December 2008, 19:13
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Member
Country: UK - Scotland
Make: HumberOceanOffshore
Length: 8m +
Engine: Volvo KAD300/DPX
Join Date: Oct 2002
Posts: 5,596
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Solent Ranger
The new fuel duty from 1st December is:
Unleaded - £0.5235p/l and Red is now, and wait for this number - £0.10007p/l.
I got this from the revenue this afternoon.
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Solent Ranger, would you like to clarify this a wee bit. Is this the duty for commercial use as of 1st December? Since you are giving a comparison with unleaded petrol, it looks as though you may be suggesting leisure red diesel is at this duty rate. Are you saying this?
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10 December 2008, 19:24
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Member
Country: UK - Wales
Town: swansea
Boat name: Too Blue
Make: BLANK
Length: 8m +
Engine: Suzuki DT225
Join Date: Mar 2004
Posts: 12,791
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Quote:
Originally Posted by rickuk3
We just declare comercial when we fill up the commercial vessels and do not pay the duty, and what percentage we want for the pleasure boats at this time of year thats 10/90 (10% propulsion 90% generation/heating)
Richard
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Best fill up in the winter then - this country has now gone completely bonkers............
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11 December 2008, 08:39
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Member
Country: UK - England
Town: Newport IoW
Boat name: Amean/Pronto/Rumbo
Make: Solent Rib Princess
Length: 7m +
Engine: 200hp Etec 260x 2
MMSI: lots of them
Join Date: Sep 2003
Posts: 1,861
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JW
Think he is trying to say that this is how much a commercial operator can claim back per litre for petrol and for deisel.
The 60/40 split does not come into it if you operate boats on a commercial basis.
Problem with a deisel rib unles it is a cabin rib and has a ebesbacher ? heater
users are going to see there running costs going up by quite a large amount .
Merry Christmas
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RYA Freelance YMI power Powerboat and PWC instructor trainer vhf first aid sea survival Diesel engine radar and navigation instructor
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11 December 2008, 11:28
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Member
Country: UK - Scotland
Make: HumberOceanOffshore
Length: 8m +
Engine: Volvo KAD300/DPX
Join Date: Oct 2002
Posts: 5,596
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Quote:
Originally Posted by tim griffin
JW
Think he is trying to say that this is how much a commercial operator can claim back per litre for petrol and for deisel.
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Ta for that, Tim.
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...Problem with a deisel rib unles it is a cabin rib and has a ebesbacher ? heater
users are going to see there running costs going up by quite a large amount .
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Yeh, to you too.
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04 January 2009, 09:12
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RIBnet supporter
Country: UK - England
Town: Hants
Length: 8m +
Engine: 300hp plus
Join Date: Sep 2007
Posts: 3,072
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Reclaim link
Just completed 2008 claim so thought this link might be useful to others, gives the claim form and the rules etc.
http://search2.hmrc.gov.uk/kbroker/h...jsp?formId=620
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13 January 2009, 13:19
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Member
Country: UK - England
Town: swanwick/hamble
Boat name: stormchaser
Make: custom rib
Length: 8m +
Engine: inboard/diesel
Join Date: Aug 2007
Posts: 3,848
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as a commercial operator you have always been able to claim the duty as well as the vat back on both petrol and diesel
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16 February 2010, 15:56
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RIBnet supporter
Country: UK - England
Town: Hants
Length: 8m +
Engine: 300hp plus
Join Date: Sep 2007
Posts: 3,072
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If anyone has not received their fuel reclaim for 2009 it may be worth a telephone call. I checked and my claim is not registered this year, had all previous claims on record but not 2009. I am having to re-submit claim
Telephone number direct to the centre ignoring the HM Customs help line 0845 which was as much help as a chocolate tea pot is 0191 225 9625 and the lady here is very helpful
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18 February 2010, 14:24
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RIBnet supporter
Country: UK - England
Town: Hants
Length: 8m +
Engine: 300hp plus
Join Date: Sep 2007
Posts: 3,072
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Fuel rates updates- following the loss of my 2009 claim and resubmission this has gone through and have been advised that the rate changed to the following-
Effective duty rate per litre (£) From 1 April 2009=0.5419
Effective duty rate per litre (£) From I Sept 2009= 0.5619
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26 January 2011, 15:46
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RIBnet supporter
Country: UK - England
Town: Hants
Length: 8m +
Engine: 300hp plus
Join Date: Sep 2007
Posts: 3,072
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Updated fuel rates
I called the office today and these are the rates and effective dates for fuel duty reclaims
Jan 2010- 31st March 2010= 0.5619
1st April 2010- 30th Sept 2010= 0.5719
1st Oct 2010- 31st Dec 2010= 0.5819
1st Jan it is presently 0.5895
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26 January 2011, 15:53
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Member
Country: UK - England
Town: Newport IoW
Boat name: Amean/Pronto/Rumbo
Make: Solent Rib Princess
Length: 7m +
Engine: 200hp Etec 260x 2
MMSI: lots of them
Join Date: Sep 2003
Posts: 1,861
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Getting hard to make a living very slow start to the year on the water.
Upside is classroom work is busy going to offer online courses in the next couple of weeks so that may help keep us going.
Tim
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