PBI Advice - Page 2

peterb · 26 November 2007, 16:51

There is no link between getting your basic PB2 certificate commercially endorsed, and doing intermediate or advanced. (And the PBI certificate is not in any way commercially endorsable.)

If you want to get your basic PB2 cert commercially endorsed then you need to have a current first aid cert, plus a doctors medical, plus a sea survival cert. Its then a paper exercise to get the PB2 stamped for commercial.

However, if you take and pass PB2 advanced, you cannot get this endorsed in the same way. You have to take a separate exam before you will be granted PB2 advanced commercial.

Have a look here for more info.

Rogue Wave · 26 November 2007, 17:10

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One thing I would like to do is get my certificate coastally endorsed? What’s the best route to follow to get this completed?

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Quote:

Originally Posted by peterb

There is no link between getting your basic PB2 certificate commercially endorsed, and doing intermediate or advanced. (And the PBI certificate is not in any way commercially endorsable.)

If you want to get your basic PB2 cert commercially endorsed then you need to have a current first aid cert, plus a doctors medical, plus a sea survival cert. Its then a paper exercise to get the PB2 stamped for commercial.

However, if you take and pass PB2 advanced, you cannot get this endorsed in the same way. You have to take a separate exam before you will be granted PB2 advanced commercial.

Have a look here for more info.

Dy'a have to go to Specsavers to

Paul Glatzel · 26 November 2007, 18:16

Quote:

One thing I would like to do is get my certificate coastally endorsed? What’s the best route to follow to get this completed?

This would also enable me to get my Intermediate and Advanced tickets.

Steve

Question first, do you want to get your Level 2 Coastally Endorsed, the PBI Certificate or both?

If Level 2: Realistically it depends on your level of experience already in a coastal environment. It could be that you could undertake a direct assessment if your experience is fully there plus of course handling with tide too. Another option could be that you spend a day with an Instructor to brush up on the coastal elements. One option that merits consideration is to do the entire Level 2 course in a Coastal Envirnomnet again, this may sound like overkill however if you feel that you need to develop the coastal theory knowledge and want to teach in a coastal envirnoment then there can be real benefits in both seeing the course run in this environment (which typically is very different) whilst developing skills at the same time.

If PBI: A day's assessment by a Trainer of your knowldege, boat handling and ability to teach the coastal subjects at a coastal center.

Feel free to throw in further questions

Regards

Paul

Gordon · 26 November 2007, 18:39

Commercial Endorsement requires a qualification that can be commercially endorsed as well as :-

RYA Sea Survival
RYA VHF / DSC License
Medical from your GP (ENG1 or ML5 - form from MCA website)
Current First Aid Certificate

If you want to get your Coastal, then perhaps a better route would be to go for the Advanced PBI training which can be done at a Coastal Centre...problem sorted...Jono and others here would be able to advise better than I...

Hope this helps,

Gordon...

Rogue Wave · 26 November 2007, 18:53

ENG1 is not a medical form that can be signed of by any GP you have to a GP that is approved by the MCA same as UKOOA tickets and it's a harder examination. But it's only needed for real commercial shipping work. ML5 can be signed of by your GP and is fine for powerboat use.

The ENG1 Is a thorough medical, probably works out as a pretty economic checkup for a 100 kwid

I don't think you need any medical ticket to get you PB2 ticket's coastal box ticked, however

Paul Glatzel · 26 November 2007, 19:05

Gordon

Quote:

If you want to get your Coastal, then perhaps a better route would be to go for the Advanced PBI training which can be done at a Coastal Centre...problem sorted...Jono and others here would be able to advise better than I...

Hi, perhaps i misunderstand but how is Steve's desire to coastally endorse his certificates addressed by "be to go for the Advanced PBI training"?

Regards

Paul

ANDYJC · 26 November 2007, 20:01

Sorry to hijack the thread, but, can I have some advice of the best places to do a PBI course in the North Wales or North West region within the next 2-3 months? My boat is kept on the Menai Straits.

I have already:

PB2
PB Intermediate
VHF
Commercial Sea Survival
PWC Instructor
First Aid
Day Skipper Theory

Looking to do the course before April to avoid having to pay to do a assessment to do the course (and I am not saying it is a bad thing just do not like paying for things so you can do something else)

Thanks

Andy

J S · 26 November 2007, 20:13

Quote:

Originally Posted by ANDYJC

Sorry to hijack the thread, but, can I have some advice of the best places to do a PBI course in the North Wales or North West region within the next 2-3 months? My boat is kept on the Menai Straits.

I have already:

PB2
PB Intermediate
VHF
Commercial Sea Survival
PWC Instructor
First Aid

Looking to do the course before April to avoid having to pay to do a assessment to do the course (and I am not saying it is a bad thing just do not like paying for things so you can do something else)

Thanks

Andy

I did mine at PPT (Professional Powerboat Training) In Pwllheli with Jono. I found it to be a great course and i learnt a huge amount even though i had done similar courses to you before. We used very new boats which was great. Its also a great location to do your course in as there is such nice scenery.

http://www.professional-powerboat-training.co.uk/

Hope that helps.

If you want anymore info just ask or im sure Jono can help you he is on this forum.

James

ANDYJC · 26 November 2007, 20:24

Thanks James, Jono is on my list to call just wanted to know of any more in the area.

Andy

DM · 26 November 2007, 21:33

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Originally Posted by ANDYJC

just wanted to know of any more in the area.

If you keep your boat on the Menai and know the waters, doing the PBI at Plas Menai would give you an edge but if you wanted a change of scenery, Dave Mallet at Wavelength Training.

He's a grumpy old git but you get your moneys worth.

Jono Garton · 27 November 2007, 10:46

Steve

I agree with Paul, but please feel free to come and get some experience on the coast.

Andy

We are running training & teaching skills and syllabus familiarisation (non RYA) 5th - 14th February followed by an RYA Instructor Course 15th, 16th, 17th February.

Jono

Gordon · 27 November 2007, 22:41

Quote:

Originally Posted by Paul Glatzel

Gordon

Hi, perhaps i misunderstand but how is Steve's desire to coastally endorse his certificates addressed by "be to go for the Advanced PBI training"?

Regards

Paul

Hi Paul,

As with many things, people tend to move onwards and upwards and if Steve intends (although no intent was mentioned by him) to carry on with getting or adding coastal experience, as a PB2 holder, a natural progression COULD be to go on to the advanced course at a coastal centre, thus killing the proverbial two birds with one stone...

Just thoughts,

Gordon...

Gordon · 27 November 2007, 22:43

Quote:

Originally Posted by davidmanning

If you keep your boat on the Menai and know the waters, doing the PBI at Plas Menai would give you an edge but if you wanted a change of scenery, Dave Mallet at Wavelength Training.

He's a grumpy old git but you get your moneys worth.

Ahh Dave M - had to laugh at your 'observation' above - he taught my PBI course....and he is a grumpy old sod but worth his weight in gold as an Instructor...!

Gordon...

Rogue Wave · 28 November 2007, 00:20

SteveHall · 04 December 2007, 10:32

Well I Passed!!!!

Thanks for all the help and advice!!

Simon Hawkins · 04 December 2007, 10:40

Congratulations Steve. Now the hard bit, trying to find some Instructor work !

Simon

Gordon · 04 December 2007, 11:40

Well Done Steve - glad to hear you're joining the throngs of PBI's - good luck with job hunting...

Gordon...

SteveHall · 04 December 2007, 11:43

I should be OK for the work..... I work at a centre already, so just pushing my name onto the rota's

Jon Brooks · 04 December 2007, 16:34

Well done Steve and welcome to the club

Cheers

DGR · 07 December 2007, 20:09

I think Steve is talking about a different endorsement. If memory serves, if you do an RYA course on inland waters, you can't teach in coastal waters unless you get the 'coastal' bit 'endorsed' on your certificate.

The easiest way is to do the course in a coastal location.

At least - I THINK that's what he meant......!!

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