STCW 95 v Advance Course

SPR · 15 September 2011, 21:15

Hi All,

Just trained a person with his PB 2 - he asking me about STCW 95. is there any of you that do this? Especially in Scotland.

Is advance Powerboat be enough and easier?

regards

Scott

SPR · 16 September 2011, 10:58

I now know this is incorrect and nothing to do with each other....

Scott

Jonuk · 16 September 2011, 13:38

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Originally Posted by SPR

Hi All,

Just trained a person with his PB 2 - he asking me about STCW 95. is there any of you that do this? Especially in Scotland.

Is advance Powerboat be enough and easier?

regards

Scott

It depends what he intends using the ticket for.

The STCW 95 basic courses are not required for the advanced powerboat course or the commercially endorsed advanced. He will simply need VHF radio, First Aid (RYA), sea survival and a medical (an ML5 is sufficient). If he is operating in fair weather and between the hours of sunrise and sunset with no more than 12 passengers and no further than 3 miles from a safe haven on a vessel less than 10m then the powerboat level two commercially endorsed is sufficient. The STCW -95 endorsement is available on a Yacht-Master Offshore if the candidate holds the 4 basic modules - PSSR, Sea Survival, Fire Fighting, Elementary First Aid.. Some coutries and flag states specify that an STCW-95 endorsed ticket is required.. If this is the case then a commercially endorsed Yacht-Master Offshore is the minimum...

I hope this helps.. Feel free to PM if you need any further info...

Poly · 16 September 2011, 14:12

[QUOTE=Jonuk;421426 If he is operating in fair weather and between the hours of sunrise and sunset with no more than 12 passengers and no further than 3 miles from a safe haven on a vessel less than 10m then the powerboat level two commercially endorsed is sufficient. .[/QUOTE]

[pedant mode] its 3 miles from a nominated departure point, not 3 miles from a safe haven. e.g. if you imagine a coastline with harbours every 5 miles you could travel very far on just an RYA PB2 cert if it were 3 miles from a safe haven. In fact you shouldn't be more than 3 miles from where you started your journey "to sea" (noting that "to sea" is where the categorised waters end, if you actually start within categorised waters). In contrast an Commercial APB ticket will let you go 20 miles from safe haven so you could go virtually anywhere within british waters. [/pedant mode]

SPR · 16 September 2011, 15:14

I will pm you jonuk , I was misunderstanding ... it was not the pb2 person...it's group of folk that need it..

These people will not be in UK waters so no MCA.

Jonuk · 16 September 2011, 16:40

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Originally Posted by Polwart

[pedant mode] its 3 miles from a nominated departure point, not 3 miles from a safe haven. e.g. if you imagine a coastline with harbours every 5 miles you could travel very far on just an RYA PB2 cert if it were 3 miles from a safe haven. In fact you shouldn't be more than 3 miles from where you started your journey "to sea" (noting that "to sea" is where the categorised waters end, if you actually start within categorised waters). In contrast an Commercial APB ticket will let you go 20 miles from safe haven so you could go virtually anywhere within british waters. [/pedant mode]

Yep so it is... Thanks

SeaSkills · 17 September 2011, 07:33

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Originally Posted by SPR

I will pm you jonuk , I was misunderstanding ... it was not the pb2 person...it's group of folk that need it..

These people will not be in UK waters so no MCA.

Careful .... if the boat is red-flagged, we still have MCA involvement

Doug Stormforce · 18 September 2011, 07:30

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Originally Posted by Jonuk

It depends what he intends using the ticket for.

The STCW 95 basic courses are not required for the advanced powerboat course or the commercially endorsed advanced. He will simply need VHF radio, First Aid (RYA), sea survival and a medical (an ML5 is sufficient). If he is operating in fair weather and between the hours of sunrise and sunset with no more than 12 passengers and no further than 3 miles from a safe haven on a vessel less than 10m then the powerboat level two commercially endorsed is sufficient. The STCW -95 endorsement is available on a Yacht-Master Offshore if the candidate holds the 4 basic modules - PSSR, Sea Survival, Fire Fighting, Elementary First Aid.. Some coutries and flag states specify that an STCW-95 endorsed ticket is required.. If this is the case then a commercially endorsed Yacht-Master Offshore is the minimum...

I hope this helps.. Feel free to PM if you need any further info...

I think you are confusing the ICC with the commercial certificates of competence. The limit of the Level 2 is 24m, not 10m.

Details are summarised at

http://www.stormforce.biz/informatio...-skippers.html

To be fair STCW'95 training has nothing to do with the RYA certificates of competence, while you can endorse the Yachmaster Offshore lots of seafarers working overseas with lower qualifications require STCW'95 basic safety training as well.