Forum Update on Monday - Q & A

[willk]

Originally Posted by Bigmuz7

as for you .... you're still a cheeky cnut

Indeed I am. But I have my own smiley : willk :

As we say here - I'm easily pleased....

[John Kennett]

Originally Posted by willk

PS: Holy Sh1t damn f**k - gonna hafta apologise to Gotchi - they only bl@@dy did name the smiley after me!

Quite chuffed though...

It's because you're worth it!

I may only be the tea boy now, but I still have the key to the executive washroom

[willk]

Originally Posted by John Kennett

It's because you're worth it!

I may only be the tea boy now, but I still have the key to the executive washroom

Fair enough Boss. I might buy you lunch so...

[HUMBER P4VWL]

LMAO

[martini]

Is it me or has the youtube tags disappeared

[Nos4r2]

Originally Posted by martini

Is it me or has the youtube tags disappeared

See here:-

http://www.rib.net/forum/f16/posting...tml#post404580

[willk]

Originally Posted by HUMBER P4VWL

LMAO

Why not? It's not like the fall is gonna do it any serious harm....

[martini]

Originally Posted by Nos4r2

See here:-

http://www.rib.net/forum/f16/posting...tml#post404580

Thanks, I'd missed that, although it doesn't seem to be working for me, I'm just getting the link:

YouTube - ‪Jet boat precision turn (Venture Jet, Ocean Dynamics RIB)‬‏

[Poly]

Martini,

Where did you get that link from?

If I search for that vid in youtube and then cut and paste the link from the browser address bar I get this:

YouTube - ‪Jet boat precision turn (Venture Jet, Ocean Dynamics RIB)‬‏

[martini]

Ah, works for me now too. Must be cos the link was different, the address contained reference to the user instead of the word "watch", due to me being logged in to youtube and subscribed to venturejet's channel

YouTube - ‪Jet boat precision turn (Venture Jet, Ocean Dynamics RIB)‬‏

[Doug Stormforce]

Originally Posted by gotchiguy

One other thing: surely it makes sense for the "community forums" to be below the RIB ones. Seeing as they are supposed to be the main content of the site.

It may only be me but it has been my impression over the years that JK tried to stay away from having too many different sections and all the glitzy bits. I accept that it may be part and parcel of joining the "social knowledge" group, however some of the "improvements" do seem to be a little superfluous, potential detractors in fact from the main sections?

Originally Posted by Janet H

Possibly - but for new members trying to get help with their first issues or having trouble navigating the forum this section is invaluable. We just set up an intro forum in the community section as well after seeing a bunch of newbie posts in various other sections that went unanswered. They easily get lost and it can be very for a first time poster to get no response...

For the most part, regular members will just scroll past the new bits at the top. Did you know you can even close a category?

Click on the tiny arrow over to the top right of the category to minimize it

New site looks great, much more modern and multi quote is pretty cool.

However another vote for putting the community stuff at the bottom and leaving RIBs and RIBBING as the the top page. New users might find it useful but as you put it they can just scroll down. Regular users don't want to use it every time they visit.

[Max...]

Since the change I cannot stay logged in - any fix for this please?

[Janet H]

Originally Posted by Max...

Since the change I cannot stay logged in - any fix for this please?

I'm sorry you're having trouble. Try logging out and deleting your browsing history and cookies. Then log in again and check the remember me box.

[gotchiguy]

Originally Posted by Doug Stormforce

However another vote for putting the community stuff at the bottom and leaving RIBs and RIBBING as the the top page. New users might find it useful but as you put it they can just scroll down. Regular users don't want to use it every time they visit.

Agreed, it is actually quite a big issue. The new header also takes up significantly more space than ever before, and along with the rotating album pictures (one of the most worthwhile improvements IMVHO) AND
the community forums, it takes a long time to scroll down. I pity those who do not have adverts turned off, I imagine that they have even further to scroll down.

One of the superfluous features in my opinion is the quick reply function:

Originally Posted by John Kennett

Quick reply is an option in vBulletin, but I've always thought that it's another non-feature.

I fully agree, it does not add anything, and if anything it will simply encourage unnecessary short posts between posters such as myself and willk, thereby undoubtedly detracting from the content of the site. Multi-quote is ok, but again in the past John has spoken against it. I was under the impression it was not present (in much the same way as quotes within a quote) to ensure that threads do not become ceaseless lines of quotes which need to be waded through to reach the content. When something needed to be multi-quoted it was still possible to achieve it.

The "newbie" forum is also something ribnet has avoided in the past. Many forums require it because "flame wars" are started when a new person makes a mistake by doing something against some underwritten rule of the site in the main body. Apart from for trade memberships, we do not have that issue.

Oh and I call again for the replacement of the top button in its proper place. I do not like the app so I continue to log in properly on my phone through the link in the instant email, when navigating it is very annoying where the button is placed now.

It may have been "made from a template" before Humber but I think we were better off for it. The new site although it has some new and interesting features has, in my opinion become too gimicky.

Originally Posted by Andy R

When we make changes we will try our best to include an option to set it back if you prefer.

Please deliver on the promise - I want the old ribnet back
PS. I am a self-confessed luddite.

[gotchiguy]

One other thing, I mentioned a while back but seems not to have been done in the update like you suggested it would: when using the "preview post" function, the text is the entire width of the page. If you are using complicated formatting etc then this distorts it. Surely it would make sense for the preview page to be the same size as the normal forum so that you can actually preview how it will look when you post it.

[gotchiguy]

Also, comments on profile: WTF!







Actually I quite like it


.....but is it something that benefits the forum?

[Poly]

Originally Posted by gotchiguy

Agreed, it is actually quite a big issue.

Ah to be 15 again when the big issues in life were the layout of stuff on your computer screen.

One of the superfluous features in my opinion is the quick reply function:
I fully agree, it does not add anything, and if anything it will simply encourage unnecessary short posts between posters such as myself and willk, thereby undoubtedly detracting from the content of the site.

Well can I suggest that you learn some self control then! Willk's cutting barbs have usually been too carefully crafted for quick reply to make a difference. I don't actually see quick reply as essential - but I've used other forums where it is in place and don't see a correlation to increased amounts of trivia.

Multi-quote is ok, but again in the past John has spoken against it. I was under the impression it was not present (in much the same way as quotes within a quote) to ensure that threads do not become ceaseless lines of quotes which need to be waded through to reach the content. When something needed to be multi-quoted it was still possible to achieve it.

You have me to blame for that! I suggested it because I think it is a useful feature. I completely recognise the risk you perceive with pages of quoted rubbish - but of course smart users can use it selectively.

Of course if either of those features result in unnecessary amounts of time being wasted or increase the amount of time we spend moving you to the bilges the features can be turned off. However we'll never know if these features are pointless or useful unless we try them out. Likewise it would be wrong to exclude all users from benefiting because one or two will abuse them (but those who abuse them might lose them !)

[gotchiguy]

When posting in "forum support" forum, the post icon bar comes up. Hope that it isn't a trial for the entire forum. Assuming it isn't: just flagging it.

[Janet H]

Originally Posted by gotchiguy

When posting in "forum support" forum, the post icon bar comes up. Hope that it isn't a trial for the entire forum. Assuming it isn't: just flagging it.

Did you see this when starting a new thread or when responding to another post?

[gotchiguy]

Originally Posted by Janet H

Did you see this when starting a new thread or when responding to another post?

Saw your testing post and checked it myself afterwards. Seems to have gone again All it needed was a woman's touch I will report back if it occurs again.