The User Reputation system

[Rogue Wave]

sorry for being a bit fiery
I actually think the police do a good and tuff job, However I think unmarked traffic cars and those camera vans ar very sneaky

[jwalker]

Originally Posted by Rogue Wave

What was all that shit between you and the Jackeens accusing each other of voting for each others partners.

I'll take the blame for that. Is was meant to be light hearted. Just setting a wee seed to see the reaction.

JW and Missus Jackeen handing out each other points. I would call that abusing the system.

Yes, I handed out one point and I did have a little pang of conscience. But it was just replacing one which had been removed on a thread which was completely light hearted in nature, upon which no judgement should have been made, so I managed to overcome my feelings of guilt.

Tim may want to ponder on why he hasn't much reputation left.

Not guilty sir.

[Richard B]

Originally Posted by jwalker

I'll take the blame for that..

No blame needed...

Originally Posted by jwalker

Is was meant to be light hearted..

And as far as I'm concerned taken that way

Originally Posted by jwalker

Richard B has become positively nice...

That bit worried me! The word "nice" always worries me

[bogib]

OUCH now RW will wipe me out of his buddy list as last year we fitted couple of such camera systems into Icelandic Police vehicles and we are due to double the instalations this year (good business for us). RB yes this is my personal email, also have bogi@radioraf.is and bogi@delta.is which are my business emails (radioraf is the one doing instalations for the Icelandic Police and delta is the pharmaceutical business).

[Richard B]

Bogi, I don't have a problem with speed cameras.... except that when they are installed, there should be plenty of signs saying what the speed limit is. OK it's a good idea to concentrate on driving, but realistically, nobody clears their mind of everything else once in the car!

And in the UK we have a stupid speed limit called "diagonal stripe on white circle" which I can't find anywhere on my speedo.

OK, I'm being facetious here, but I'm certain loads of people have no idea what this means!

[bogib]

Richard have read your mail sorry for not seeing it earlier have sent a pm explaining. I appreciate this and I and Ingi Björn (Little Bear) we look forward to RIBex although Steinunn is not as keen to (she is not into boating or ferrying at all).
I have no problem with speeding only been stopped twice once over here and once in Chicago although not looking carefully at the speedo, seems always been going higher (faster) than feeling the speed of the car which is more realistic measurement to me.

[Richard B]

No probs, Bogi.

I'm sure that once Steinunn has arrived at Cowes she will have a good time. It's a good place for you workaholic types to relax, on land or on water.

[bogib]

I agree, if I remember right there are number of souvenier shops over there which will keep Steinunn busy for a while.

[Bittentobuggery]

To get the thread back on track, I think that the credibilty system has inevitably suffered from human nature manifesting itself in it's various forms.

I see that somebody has recently voted me a green pip (bless you) but does that now mean that I have more credibility than Alan Priddy !!

Paul Glatzel apparently only warrants one green blob. Does that mean that his experience and seamanship is inferior to the 2 green blob brigade.

I would be in favour of new members being welcomed with the health warning "Beware, some people talk bollox". Even casual observers can tell when somebody has posted a wrong 'un by the torrent of abuse and vitriol that cascades their way.

Scrap the system. It's not healthy in it's current form.

[The Jackeens]

Don't think it's a measure of someone's brilliance (and I say that with great trepidation)...some lurkers out there will know loads more than anyone ...(our BM engine guru ain't figgering yet either...)
But it's based on what people think of actual posts...

So very experienced/ knowledgeable people would come through over time...and via their high-quality contributions / sharing....

MISSUS

[tim griffin]

i think some new members are so nervous, about posting that they won,t
its not a great system , for those of us who are on here all the time we seem to have aquired two blobs very quickly, for those who do not use it all the time
but are experts or by nature of what they have acheived remain with one blob,
to the newcomer who may not know who these people are it could be misleading, if you want to give it some credibility then do as Richard said
have a reason , i am sure peope are inteligent enough to work out when we are talking crap and when we are talking sense. ditch it
regard tim
www.griffmarineservices.co.uk

[The Jackeens]

I suppose we have to give things a chance...changes can reinvigorate too...

Missus

[Keith Hart]

Hey, has anyone tried voting for themselves yet?

Keith (I haven't - honestly) Hart

[jwalker]

Scap it. It's all part of the modern way, judge and be judged, accountability etc. It was nice to know one is not considered a total wally, and fun to zap a couple of people for talkin' sh*te but I can live without that and, on reflection, life's too short to be bu**ering about judging folk I've never even met. Especially when one person's bollix is another person's sustenance.

Apologies to the two folk I redblobbed.

[Manos]

Now this reputation point is getting REDICULOUS!! Mr John Kennet.
Someone gave me a minus point cause I wished Stuart happy birthday .
THIS STINKS!!!

[John Kennett]

So someone gave you a minus rep point. Big deal, get over it. It doesn't matter.

You have now posted this message in two separate threads, and emailed me about it. I wouldn't be surprised if it gets you more minus points!

The way the system works, a single person can do very little to seriously dent anyone's reputation as everyone is limited to how many votes they can use. If someone wastes one on having a dig at you, it may be irritating but it doesn't mean that the system doesn't work. I have noted your views and will bear them in mind.

John

[John Kennett]

I just had a look at the figures to see how things are going, and it's clear that ithe reputation system is generally working in a positive way.

The main function is to acknowledge posts which are good because they are useful, helpful, accurate etc. Giving minus points is much less common, and amounts for just over 10% of the 600+ votes so far.

I'm still keeping an open mind about the system, and it may or may not survive in the long term, but for now I am generally happy with the way it is being used.

John

[The Jackeens]

How about letting us all have access to the column where our Blob givers are identified.
Now that would be real democracy !!! And freedom of information!!!!

Missus

[John Kennett]

Originally Posted by The Jackeens

How about letting us all have access to the column where our Blob givers are identified.
Now that would be real democracy !!! And freedom of information!!!!

You should know by now that this isn't a democracy!

As people seem to get very upset when someone "red blobs" them, I've decided to go the other way completely and not show any details of recent repuation ratings. This way there is even less incentive for anyone to maliciously dish out negative points as their target won't even know!

It's the overall rating that counts, not individual votes . . .

John

[The Jackeens]

Really it's the 'dark little secret' element I don't like. Would prefer more info not less!!!! The fact that someone red-blobbed Manos for wishing happy birthday means it was a little personal attack and nothing to do with the quality and worth of his post.

Find it a bit creepy ... this silent and secretive negative response...
And now it's buried even more... and there is no opportunity to respond to the disaffected.

Instead why not have green blobs only (as you seem to like the system) where people could just get stars for 'being good'.

Positive reinforcement is a better long term approach in my view. The 'stab-in-the-back system has adversely affected the Forums. All IMHO.

Previously people had to stand by their responses, positive or negative and there were some interesting discussions.You had also set up rules for posting and took action where behaviour was unacceptable. People can complain via PM system (for which you are well-known for responding to absolutely everything that comes your way!) So I think there were sufficient sanctions.

Appreciate it's not a democracy!!!!But the fact that you have put everything up for discussion (among other worthy practices) means that you uphold some solid democratic principles.

Thanks as usual for your hard work for us all and for running a great forum.

Missus