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21 August 2010, 21:58
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Member
Country: UK - Channel Islands
Town: jersey
Boat name: Martini II
Make: Arctic 28/FC470
Length: 8m +
Engine: twin 225Opti/50hp 2t
MMSI: 235067688
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Originally Posted by willk
Oh dear. I'm getting 130:1 ono, but then I'm a wussy in the revs dept.
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So am I since I started taking notes! That's just cruising along at 4500rpm
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21 August 2010, 22:00
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Originally Posted by PeterM
I reckon I'm more like 100:1 if not a little higher up to 120:1
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Aye, but then you're the "me" of the Opti fraternity, Mr. Cabin Rib, nice 'n' easy on the stick. On the other hand there's Chris, the Martini of the Etec world, who runs at 70:1 on XD100, but then he's a maniac too.
Oil consumption seems to be closely related to how close you thrash your 2 stroke engines to the edge
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21 August 2010, 22:04
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Member
Country: UK - England
Town: Southampton
Boat name: Hissing Sid
Make: Ross Smith Cobra
Length: 6m +
Engine: 200HP Optimax
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Originally Posted by martini
So am I since I started taking notes! That's just cruising along at 4500rpm
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May be worth getting it checked?
I've heard of some of the earlier ones using alot of oil, what year are yours?
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21 August 2010, 22:06
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Member
Country: UK - Channel Islands
Town: jersey
Boat name: Martini II
Make: Arctic 28/FC470
Length: 8m +
Engine: twin 225Opti/50hp 2t
MMSI: 235067688
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Originally Posted by Jizm
May be worth getting it checked?
I've heard of some of the earlier ones using alot of oil, what year are yours?
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2003. I've mentioned it to Turbodiesel on here and a couple of other Merc tecs, nobody even blinked
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21 August 2010, 22:11
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Member
Country: UK - Channel Islands
Town: jersey
Boat name: Martini II
Make: Arctic 28/FC470
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Quote:
Originally Posted by willk
On the other hand there's Chris, the Martini of the Etec world, who runs at 70:1 on XD100, but then he's a maniac too.
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When in the hell did I become the benchmark for lunatic ribsters?! Not that I'm complaining
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21 August 2010, 22:11
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Member
Country: UK - England
Town: Southampton
Boat name: Hissing Sid
Make: Ross Smith Cobra
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Originally Posted by martini
2003. I've mentioned it to Turbodiesel on here and a couple of other Merc tecs, nobody even blinked
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Hmmm
How heavy's your boat?
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21 August 2010, 22:11
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Country: UK - England
Town: Mighty Penryn
Boat name: Little Joe.
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Engine: Honda BF50
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Quote:
Originally Posted by martini
I've mentioned it to Turbodiesel, nobody even blinked
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Is he selling you the oil?
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21 August 2010, 22:18
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Member
Country: UK - Channel Islands
Town: jersey
Boat name: Martini II
Make: Arctic 28/FC470
Length: 8m +
Engine: twin 225Opti/50hp 2t
MMSI: 235067688
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Jizm
Hmmm
How heavy's your boat?
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circa 3500kg
Quote:
Originally Posted by Mollers
Is he selling you the oil?
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he wishes
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21 August 2010, 22:20
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Member
Country: UK - Wales
Town: N Wales Chester
Boat name: Mr Smith
Make: Humber
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Mollers
Is he selling you the oil?
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No worries, all interesting
Hijack, more like kidnap, murder and burial of op!
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21 August 2010, 22:25
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Country: UK - England
Town: Dorset & Hants
Boat name: Streaker/Orange
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Engine: 50Yam/25 Mariner
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Originally Posted by HUMBER P4VWL
No worries, all interesting
Hijack, more like kidnap, murder and burial of op!
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I'm sure it can be all be slapped in a seperate thread by those 'in power' ?
Sounds like your current opti is a duff one. I have been told mine had a complete new wiring loom after a year or two as it just kept cutting out.
I'd get another over an etec simply due to the 'known quantity' of them and the local dealer being very good. (I've also got a 4st Yam that never goes near the Yam dealer.....so swings and roundabouts and all that.)
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21 August 2010, 22:26
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Country: UK - England
Town: Southampton
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Quote:
Originally Posted by martini
circa 3500kg
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may be a factor
Gareth @ marenautic does DFi oil for about £60 for 10 litres but I've been told you can use Rock MP3 (by a Merc agent), maybe worth a look...
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21 August 2010, 22:29
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Country: UK - England
Town: Mighty Penryn
Boat name: Little Joe.
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Quote:
Originally Posted by PeterM
I'd get another over an etec simply due to the 'known quantity' of them and the local dealer being very good.
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So presumably, you drive an '89 Mk2 Golf?
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21 August 2010, 22:31
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Mollers
So presumably, you drive an '89 Mk2 Golf?
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Are you stalking me ?
I have a watch with moving bits on the front and betamax video too......
Watch out you'll offend the pre 89 searider owners ......
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21 August 2010, 22:33
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Jizm
I've been told you can use Rock MP3 (by a Merc agent), maybe worth a look...
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i wonder where he can get a good deal on that then!
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21 August 2010, 22:35
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Member
Country: UK - England
Town: Southampton
Boat name: Hissing Sid
Make: Ross Smith Cobra
Length: 6m +
Engine: 200HP Optimax
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Originally Posted by Andy B
i wonder where he can get a good deal on that then!
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shhh.......
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21 August 2010, 23:41
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Member
Country: UK - Wales
Make: Valiant
Length: 5m +
Engine: 75 Optimax
Join Date: Jun 2010
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I see it this way.
Opti's are amazing engines and if maintained by a good, authorised mech, it should never let you down.
We have at least 30 + customers running anything from a 75 HP to a 250 and off the top of my head, I think we've only had one return with MAJOR problems. We are running a 75 HP Optimax ourselves on our RYA school rib which has done 150 + hours and had no problems at all. Next year we are getting a new rib and that will be fitted with a 90 HP Optimax.
I'm not saying go for an opti. Its hard to part one engine from another these days, in general they all offer a great package. Its all down to what you want from your engine and personal preference.
Good luck on choosing.
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21 August 2010, 23:53
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Country: UK - Scotland
Boat name: imposter
Make: FunYak
Length: 3m +
Engine: Tohatsu 30HP
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Originally Posted by Damien.
I see it this way.
Opti's are amazing engines and if maintained by a good, authorised mech, it should never let you down.
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you've been listening to too much Barrus brainwashing - a good mechanic is surely sufficient (by definition) and his authorisation is irrelevant.
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We have at least 30 + customers running anything from a 75 HP to a 250 and off the top of my head, I think we've only had one return with MAJOR problems.
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without knowing what you count as major, and without knowing the competitors "stats" its a bit arbitrary. Especially since a "minor" issue like a dodgy sensor, or wiring issue might be dead easy/cheap to fix - but can ruin a weekend's boating, and cause a whole load of hassle.
Willk - are you sure it was the engine they declared "brain dead"
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21 August 2010, 23:57
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Polwart
Especially since a "minor" issue like a dodgy sensor, or wiring issue might be dead easy/cheap to fix - but can ruin a weekend's boating, and cause a whole load of hassle.
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It is just as likely for a similar issue to arise with any engine, be it merc, suz, yam etc.
Hence why I mentioned, it is purely personal preference which engine to buy these days.
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And regarding the mech, there are plenty of cowboys out there who claim they can carry out qualified work on such engines, not only voiding warranty but sometimes causing more problems than they are solving.
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22 August 2010, 10:48
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Polwart
Willk - are you sure it was the engine they declared "brain dead"
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Steady on Polly, that's getting worryingly close to name-calling
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22 August 2010, 11:34
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Well after realizing all engines seem to suffer, luck of the draw, booked it back in to the yard. Week long wait for mech to look at it, then god knows how long.
Booked two holidays off this year for two trips, both fell on setting off due to problems. One more trip booked off work for sept 6th, if not done by then, seasons nearly over for planned hols.
1. I hate being employed and wasting hol days
2. I hate it when a boat worth 20-30k under two years old never works and trashes all you plan and look forward to
3. 3cyl 90 opti are far better than the 2.5v6 IMHO
Heading home, again, can't watch any more ribs blatting around in the sun from the shore.
Here's hoping.
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