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29 June 2016, 16:01
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2003 Mariner US or Metric?
Hi,
I'm replacing some socket screws from the tilt/trim motor on my 50ELTPO, and it looks to me as though the ones I'm taking off are not metric... Can anyone advise if that's what you'd expect, please?
Finding this a bit weird, TBH, I've been working on an assortment of cars, bikes and boats since I was kid in the 70s and I've never needed Imperial tools... surely a 21st century engine sold in Europe would be metric?
Cheers,
W.
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29 June 2016, 19:04
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Nope if it's mercury mariner or evinrude or any other make manufactured in the US then it will be imperial fittings
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29 June 2016, 20:29
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Entirely expected. I'm a bit surprised if you've worked on things since the 70s that you've only met metric.
My bike (BSA A10) is predominantly Whitworth sizes & cycle thread - but it is from 1950
One of the most useful tools I ever bought was a thread pitch gauge, only a few £ & makes identification & ordering replacements easy.
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29 June 2016, 22:15
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Oh joy... I had four aircooled Citroens, three VW campers, then various German and Japanese things... bike (cycle) bits were mostly French, Japanese or occasionally Italian... US cycle parts appear to be metric, too... Lulled into a false sense of security, I guess!
Ah the joy of Standards... plenty of different ones to choose from :-(
Thanks for the confirmation, though....appreciate the help :-)
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29 June 2016, 23:03
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Just the American mentality when the rest of the world come up with a good easy to use system of standards they stick to there own outdated more complicated system
Mostly unf & unc so prety easy to spot which one it is
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03 July 2016, 03:10
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Originally Posted by WGWarburton
US cycle parts appear to be metric, too...
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Harley? They're mostly made of foreign spec'd parts, I think. Used to be "Made in the USA", now "designed and assembled in the USA". Except I think one of the new engine designs is German. Could be wrong on that, though.
jky
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04 July 2016, 10:24
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Originally Posted by jyasaki
Harley? They're mostly made of foreign spec'd parts, I think. Used to be "Made in the USA", now "designed and assembled in the USA". Except I think one of the new engine designs is German. Could be wrong on that, though.
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Apologies- I meant bicycle parts, not motorcycle: Most US bicycle parts seem to have gone with the flow and moved to metric, presumably because the components industry is dominated by Japanese & European firms- Shimano, Campagnolo etc. There are plenty of legacy threads around (Most ISO threads are "British" for historical reasons, pedals are 9/16"x20tpi etc) but the vast majority of the cap screws, axles, nuts etc are metric...
I suppose, in my naivety, I assumed that Outboards would have followed a similar path, with the popularity of Honda, Yamaha, Suzuki etc... In restrospect, a foolish notion... :-)
I'm very reluctant to go and buy a whole stack of new tools, though... Especially since it seems unlikely I'll ever need them for anything else!!
Anyone want to swap something Japanese for an old Mariner 50? :-)
Cheers,
W.
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04 July 2016, 13:33
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Originally Posted by beamishken
Just the American mentality when the rest of the world come up with a good easy to use system of standards they stick to there own outdated more complicated system
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This from a man who:
Buys his beer in Pints and his petrol in Litres
Weighs himself in Stones and Pounds and his boat in Tonnes and Kilos
Measures small distances in Millimetres and big ones in Miles
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04 July 2016, 14:28
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Originally Posted by willk
This from a man who:
Buys his beer in Pints and his petrol in Litres
Weighs himself in Stones and Pounds and his boat in Tonnes and Kilos
Measures small distances in Millimetres and big ones in Miles
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Is he Irish!!😇😃
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04 July 2016, 15:30
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Is he Irish!!
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Highlighting it, not defending it! Miles are a thing of the past here now though!
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04 July 2016, 15:34
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To be honest I'm an imperial man. It's all down to the way you were brought up. Maybe with recent decision we might go back to the 'good old days'!!
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04 July 2016, 15:37
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To be honest I'm an imperial man. It's all down to the way you were brought up. Maybe with recent decision we might go back to the 'good old days'!!
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Lucky you still have that big bag of thrupenny bits then Billy...
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04 July 2016, 16:07
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How the hell did you know. I've also six pennies, shillings, florins and half crowns so I should be okay!! You still got your stash of Punts!!
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04 July 2016, 20:21
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Quote:
Originally Posted by willk
This from a man who:
Buys his beer in Pints and his petrol in Litres
Weighs himself in Stones and Pounds and his boat in Tonnes and Kilos
Measures small distances in Millimetres and big ones in Miles
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Born in the 60's schooled in the 70's so had to learn both systems of measures still have af & metric tools but that's not to say that I don't think the metric system is easier and more intuitive to use & I'd imagine if not for the Americans it would be a worldwide standard which would simply things for everyone
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04 July 2016, 20:26
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Originally Posted by beamishken
Born in the 60's schooled in the 70's so had to learn both systems of measures still have af & metric tools but that's not to say that I don't think the metric system is easier and more intuitive to use & I'd imagine if not for the Americans it would be a worldwide standard which would simply things for everyone
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So if I understand correctly, you think that the Americans should have gone the whole nine Yards with Metric?
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04 July 2016, 20:29
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It would certainly simplify things wouldn't it!
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04 July 2016, 20:31
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So if I understand correctly, you think that the Americans should have gone the whole nine Yards with Metric?
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Should it not be ten if it's metric?
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04 July 2016, 21:32
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I missed the irony in that didn't I lol
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04 July 2016, 21:37
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My work here is done....
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