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22 May 2005, 15:04
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2stroke V 4stroke consumption chart
http://www.suzuki.ca/news/pdf/FuelEf...Comparison.pdf
Makes interesting reading - I know it is specifically on Suzuki but the general rules will apply to all outboards.
It shows that a 4 stroke REALLY scores at idle and lower speeds - as the throttle opens further the advantages start to reduce - flat out the figures get much closer.
Still dreading the figures for my DT225 though!!!
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22 May 2005, 16:03
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Originally Posted by codprawn
Still dreading the figures for my DT225 though!!!
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Is that why you keep postponing delivery?
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22 May 2005, 16:44
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Interesting.
Good one. Puts everything in to perspective.
I shall be studying it intently.
Regards Nick R.
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22 May 2005, 21:36
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I think that, the comparision chart is a load of crap ... its comparing 10-20 year old two stroke, designed engines to the very lastest four strokes.... I would love to see the comparrision between the latest HDPI, E-TEC or OPTI , to the new four stroke , it think the difference would be a lot closer, In fact it may sway the other way , in certian instances, if you add in the speed of the Boat too !
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22 May 2005, 21:41
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Originally Posted by TIM
I think that, the comparision chart is a load of crap
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Precisely! It's Suzuki saying, oh bugger we've put all our eggs in one basket with 4-strokes and completely neglected to develop a direct injection 2-stroke like our more forward thinking competitors.
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22 May 2005, 22:03
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theres a comparison between the etec 250 and verado 250 about half way down the page on this site.#
http://www.e-tecinfonet.org/id3.html
verado has slightly better fuel consumption at mid range speed but drinks it alot faster than the etec at higher speeds.
We have also noticed that the etec does drink about the same amont of fuel beween 3500 and 5400 revs and WOT is slightly higher at about 30% increase
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22 May 2005, 23:26
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Quote:
Originally Posted by TIM
I think that, the comparision chart is a load of crap ... its comparing 10-20 year old two stroke, designed engines to the very lastest four strokes.... I would love to see the comparrision between the latest HDPI, E-TEC or OPTI , to the new four stroke , it think the difference would be a lot closer, In fact it may sway the other way , in certian instances, if you add in the speed of the Boat too !
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Well I thought it would be usefull - obviously an etec would be even better but I couldn't find a chart comparing an etec to a modern 4 stroke!!!
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23 May 2005, 21:52
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The whole debate is a load of crap, if you can afford a 225hp you can afford the petrol to run it,wether its a 2 or 4 stroke - end of story
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23 May 2005, 23:43
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consumption figures
Well said ratty!
As my mate says" Do your bit for the environment....burn all the petrol now."
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24 May 2005, 00:33
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Originally Posted by Bilge Rat
The whole debate is a load of crap, if you can afford a 225hp you can afford the petrol to run it,wether its a 2 or 4 stroke - end of story
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Bollocks!!! 30gph flat out = £120 per hour = £234,000 a year - wish I earned that!!!
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24 May 2005, 06:47
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Quote:
Originally Posted by codprawn
30gph flat out = £120 per hour = £234,000 a year - wish I earned that!!!
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Why 1950 hours per year??? Remember that you will be spending most of your leisure time at the petrol pump!!!
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24 May 2005, 09:45
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I've never understood.........
Quote:
Originally Posted by Bilge Rat
The whole debate is a load of crap, if you can afford a 225hp you can afford the petrol to run it,wether its a 2 or 4 stroke - end of story
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.............why everyone seems to give a damn about fuel consumption. I have mates who drive every exotic car you can think of including the very latest four seated Maserati Quatroporte, most of them also own exotic boats and each and every one of them bangs on about fuel consumption. On this one I have to agree with Mr Rat. The caveat to that would be a commercial user - I'll let you lot off and someone wishing to calculate cnsumption for a long distance cruise. Those who bang on about it because of the cost
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24 May 2005, 09:49
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Quote:
Originally Posted by MeMe
I have mates who drive every exotic car you can think of including the very latest four seated Maserati Quatroporte, most of them also own exotic boats and each and every one of them bangs on about fuel consumption. :
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Graham you shore you are not related to Codders
All sound very formula!
Nick
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24 May 2005, 13:38
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Mmmmm......
........I suppose you could be right, however I'm sure my good pal P D along with Jono Gorton could testify to the fact that I move in rather exotic circles - I myself only drive an Audi - but you can be assured that more often than not I travel shotgun in some rather fancy stuff. If you can't be the King at least be the Kings best mate.
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24 May 2005, 13:51
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I myself only drive an Audi
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Oh, such modesty! What you have failed to tell the forum, Graeme, is that it's only got one seat, an RS8 badge on the tail, and you only drive it for 24 hrs every June in France
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24 May 2005, 13:52
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the difference is that and exotic , car will do a minum of 10mpg , where a biggish rib will do .5mpg
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24 May 2005, 13:52
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Quote:
Originally Posted by MeMe
the fact that I move in rather exotic circles .....
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Your predisposition to exotic circles is your own business. I would never judge a man for this harmless peccadilloes..
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24 May 2005, 14:00
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A woman walks.........
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Originally Posted by Jono
I would never judge a man for this harmless peccadilloes..
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....A woman walks into the doctors surgery and advises the doctor that she's extremely worried, "every time I opens my legs I hear the Tony Cristie song, Amarillo". "Don't worry" the doctor assures her, "every cu*t is singing it at the moment"............
Or have I got the wrong end of the peccadilloe yet again
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24 May 2005, 14:04
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Peccadilloes? Is that anywhere near Llanfairpwllgwyngyllgogerchwyndrobllllantysiliogog ogoch
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24 May 2005, 14:06
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Very true - more or less..........
Quote:
Originally Posted by TIM
the difference is that and exotic , car will do a minum of 10mpg , where a biggish rib will do .5mpg
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............however, where as one often covers hundreds if not thousands of miles per year in the exotic car, one usually - and I emphasise usually, only covers a fraction of those miles in ones RIB.
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