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10 September 2019, 20:14
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40hp Yamaha 60hp carb's
Hi,
I bought a 1991 Yamaha 40 hp autolube. I want to convert it to 50 hp or more. I know I need the exhaust and the carb's.
I also know 70hp carbs can be used. I am offered a set of 60 hp carb's. Would that give more power than 50 hp carb's?
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10 September 2019, 21:14
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Member
Country: UK - Scotland
Town: Aberdeenshire
Boat name: Sula
Make: Ribcraft 4.8m
Length: 4m +
Engine: Tohatsu 70hp + aux
MMSI: 235087213
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I looked at this very scenario over 10 years ago and Yamaha 50hp parts were as rare as rocking horse poo, so now it's like looking for the Holy Grail. Can't answer regards 70hp, etc.
http://www.rib.net/forum/f36/adding-...0hp-25133.html
My understanding is that model 40V and 50G shared the same block, so work on that premise. Even if you have the parts you need to remove the engine block to access the exhaust manifold. On a 1991 engine (28 years old) you run the very real risk of sheared bolts, drilling them out, and retapping. Best you're aware as it's not for the faint hearted.
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10 September 2019, 22:23
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Make: Ribcraft
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Engine: Yamaha
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Quote:
Originally Posted by spartacus
I looked at this very scenario over 10 years ago and Yamaha 50hp parts were as rare as rocking horse poo, so now it's like looking for the Holy Grail. Can't answer regards 70hp, etc.
http://www.rib.net/forum/f36/adding-...0hp-25133.html
My understanding is that model 40V and 50G shared the same block, so work on that premise. Even if you have the parts you need to remove the engine block to access the exhaust manifold. On a 1991 engine (28 years old) you run the very real risk of sheared bolts, drilling them out, and retapping. Best you're aware as it's not for the faint hearted.
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Don’t work on that premise as the 40V and 50G are completely different.
The 40V is based on the small block 50hp (ie 1991 50D) but with a much improved leg / lower shock mounts.
The 50G is the downtuned 60/70hp fitted with the 55hp gearbox.
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10 September 2019, 23:12
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Country: UK - Scotland
Town: north ayrshire
Boat name: charlie girl
Make: S/R5.4/regal3760
Length: 10m +
Engine: Suzukidf70 2x6lp 315
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Quote:
Originally Posted by phantom 19
Don’t work on that premise as the 40V and 50G are completely different.
The 40V is based on the small block 50hp (ie 1991 50D) but with a much improved leg / lower shock mounts.
The 50G is the downtuned 60/70hp fitted with the 55hp gearbox.
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Isnt it the 50H thats the same block as the 40v?
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10 September 2019, 23:18
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Town: wormit
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Quote:
Originally Posted by beamishken
Isnt it the 50H thats the same block as the 40v?
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Yip.
Best plan if wanting to use all factory parts is find a 50g which is the 850cc block and fit 70b carbs. Sure rolfhat will be on soon with advice.
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11 September 2019, 08:07
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Country: UK - Scotland
Town: Isle of Lewis
Boat name: Macleod Special
Make: Mako Thundercat
Length: 4m +
Engine: Yamaha 70ces
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70hp carbs will fit the 40/50, I think you'll actually be better with the 60hp carbs. I put 70hp Yamaha carbs on a 50 Tohatsu, lost a wee bit of mid range and gained a very small amount of top end. Not really worth it in my opinion unless you have a highly modified engine, you might be ok with 60hp carbs but I would go for 50hp ones
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11 September 2019, 15:40
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Town: PORTSMOUTH
Make: Avon 5.4, Avon 3.4,
Length: 5m +
Engine: Yamaha 90, Merc 30
Join Date: Sep 2003
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Quote:
Originally Posted by fishman009
Hi,
I bought a 1991 Yamaha 40 hp autolube. I want to convert it to 50 hp or more. I know I need the exhaust and the carb's.
I also know 70hp carbs can be used. I am offered a set of 60 hp carb's. Would that give more power than 50 hp carb's?
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reeds will be different too -
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11 September 2019, 16:12
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Town: BURGUM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by ollyit
reeds will be different too -
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No, the 40 and 50 hp (3 cyl) engines are the same, except for the exhaust tuner and carb's.
Reeds for 30/40/50 hp are the same.
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12 September 2019, 12:37
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Member
Country: UK - Scotland
Town: Isle of Lewis
Boat name: Macleod Special
Make: Mako Thundercat
Length: 4m +
Engine: Yamaha 70ces
Join Date: Jul 2010
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Go for carbon reeds if you want performance, don't want the steel ones breaking and going into the cylinders
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13 September 2019, 09:06
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Town: BURGUM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Roflhat
Go for carbon reeds if you want performance, don't want the steel ones breaking and going into the cylinders
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I just ordered reeds from CCMS.
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13 September 2019, 09:09
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Town: BURGUM
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I there a way to tell if my outboard has a 40 or 50 hp exhaust tuner? The lower short shaft section is replaced by a longshaft. I hope it's from a 50.
I looked at some pictures and think the 50 tuner is straight and square. The 40 is tapered at the top and has a round exit. Am i correct?
Can i check this by removing the lower gearcase?
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