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01 October 2017, 07:55
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Member
Country: UK - England
Town: Weston-super-Mare
Boat name: Lemaura
Make: Jets Marivent
Length: 5m +
Engine: Evinrude etec 75hp
Join Date: Sep 2017
Posts: 56
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Originally Posted by jeepster
A four stroke outboard is not necessarily heavier than an equivalent two stroke...My 3 cylinder Suzuki DF50 four stroke is actually lighter than a two cylinder 50hp Etec! (101kg vs 109kg). And although the Suzuki DF70 weighs 10kg more than an Evinrude 75 Etec, you have to bear in mind that the DF70 is a much smoother four cylinder engine, vs the coarser 3 cylinder 2 stroke Evinrude.
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That is a really good point. Suzuki have not really been on my radar. That's for the advice.
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01 October 2017, 08:33
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Member
Country: Finland
Town: Lohja
Make: Highfield
Length: 5m +
Engine: Outboard, petrol, 90
Join Date: Aug 2017
Posts: 16
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The etek 75 and 90 are basically the same engine so I would go for the 75.
But then there is the 90HO which is about the same as the 115. It is 4 cylider, has a lot more grunt and, because the gearbox and iternals are designed for higher output, it is more reliable.
I would check the price difference between 90 and 90HO ....
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01 October 2017, 09:55
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Member
Country: Ireland
Town: Castlebar
Boat name: Clewless
Make: Valiant DR 490
Length: 4m +
Engine: 60 hp ETEC
MMSI: Awaitng one
Join Date: Oct 2007
Posts: 1,339
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90 hp ho is too much weight on the back of a 5 m rib
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01 October 2017, 13:07
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Member
Country: Finland
Town: Lohja
Make: Highfield
Length: 5m +
Engine: Outboard, petrol, 90
Join Date: Aug 2017
Posts: 16
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Quote:
Originally Posted by two stroke mick
90 hp ho is too much weight on the back of a 5 m rib
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Well it weights about the same as any 80-100hp 4 stroke...
It is about 30kg more compare to the 75 and 90.
If too heavy, go for the 75hp
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01 October 2017, 13:56
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Member
Country: UK - England
Town: South Yorks
Boat name: Black Pig
Make: Ribcraft
Length: 5m +
Engine: DF140a
MMSI: 235111389
Join Date: Feb 2008
Posts: 12,200
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Quote:
Originally Posted by jeepster
A four stroke outboard is not necessarily heavier than an equivalent two stroke...My 3 cylinder Suzuki DF50 four stroke is actually lighter than a two cylinder 50hp Etec! (101kg vs 109kg). And although the Suzuki DF70 weighs 10kg more than an Evinrude 75 Etec, you have to bear in mind that the DF70 is a much smoother four cylinder engine, vs the coarser 3 cylinder 2 stroke Evinrude.
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And (IMO) the Etec will blow any equivalent 4stroke into the weeds. When it comes to torque & low down grunt the Etec will win every time.
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01 October 2017, 14:24
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Member
Country: UK - England
Town: Weston-super-Mare
Boat name: Lemaura
Make: Jets Marivent
Length: 5m +
Engine: Evinrude etec 75hp
Join Date: Sep 2017
Posts: 56
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Quote:
Originally Posted by TEK89
The etek 75 and 90 are basically the same engine so I would go for the 75.
But then there is the 90HO which is about the same as the 115. It is 4 cylider, has a lot more grunt and, because the gearbox and iternals are designed for higher output, it is more reliable.
I would check the price difference between 90 and 90HO ....
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That sound perfect. I will check it out. Great advice Thanks!
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01 October 2017, 16:13
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Member
Country: UK - England
Town: South Yorks
Boat name: Black Pig
Make: Ribcraft
Length: 5m +
Engine: DF140a
MMSI: 235111389
Join Date: Feb 2008
Posts: 12,200
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Escapeskiing
That sound perfect. I will check it out. Great advice Thanks!
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If the 90HO is based in the 115, it will be considerably heavier than the 75-90
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01 October 2017, 16:25
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Member
Country: UK - England
Town: Weston-super-Mare
Boat name: Lemaura
Make: Jets Marivent
Length: 5m +
Engine: Evinrude etec 75hp
Join Date: Sep 2017
Posts: 56
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Pikey Dave
If the 90HO is based in the 115, it will be considerably heavier than the 75-90
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Ummm. Maybe I had better loo out for an Etec 75. I may know of one.
Cheers
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01 October 2017, 20:42
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Member
Country: UK - England
Town: London
Boat name: Jeepster
Make: Marina 16 GT
Length: 5m +
Engine: Outboard, Petrol, 30
Join Date: Sep 2012
Posts: 52
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Pikey Dave
And (IMO) the Etec will blow any equivalent 4stroke into the weeds. When it comes to torque & low down grunt the Etec will win every time.
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I'd like to see a tug of war between the two motors, on identical boats...You might be surprised with the result...
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01 October 2017, 20:48
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Member
Country: UK - England
Town: South Yorks
Boat name: Black Pig
Make: Ribcraft
Length: 5m +
Engine: DF140a
MMSI: 235111389
Join Date: Feb 2008
Posts: 12,200
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Quote:
Originally Posted by jeepster
I'd like to see a tug of war between the two motors, on identical boats...You might be surprised with the result...
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I might be very surprised [emoji57]
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02 October 2017, 18:44
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Member
Country: Slovenia
Boat name: NM500
Make: Novomar
Length: 5m +
Engine: Yamaha F50 4-stroke
Join Date: Sep 2015
Posts: 3
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How the etec 75 (90) was developed during its history? When the reliability was increased if any? Thank you, experts.
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