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Old 18 September 2006, 21:57   #1
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A quick diesel

I would like to change rib next year to a diesel but i want it to be quick enough to wake boad and ski with but after doing some cruising i like the economy and the fact that you can get diesel at any mariner.
I have been told to look at the Vovo D4 or D6 as any one had any exsperience with them i want to stay with 8.1 to 8.5 meters.
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nice engine mate but way to expensive to repair and to buy, have you looked at the new yamaha ME420 getting realy good right ups. are you sticking with a sturndrive set up?
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Old 18 September 2006, 22:13   #3
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we dont have experience with the volvo but cruising with our 245hp yamaha diesel it burns around 4.5 gallons an hour in a redbay expedition cabin rib. cruising speed 25kts at 2500 rpm. thats with a single prop set up but you can go for TRP counter rotating set up also. there is the new HP versions at 275hp and 300hp also.

boat can be slow to pick up heavy laden but we still wake board off the back no problem. even had 2 beginners get up first time a few weeks ago
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why not take a look at Volvo IPS?



http://www.volvo.com/volvopenta/glob...sureboats/ips/
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Old 19 September 2006, 10:22   #5
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i dont think a volvo ips is the ideal solution for a rib. dont think it would fit properly and it would hit stuff all the time.
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Old 19 September 2006, 11:57   #6
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IPS only available for twin installations afaik
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Old 19 September 2006, 12:26   #7
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Very good power to weight ratio from Steyr and Volkswagen marine. I've no experience of either of them in marine use, but the Vdubs are good units on the road. Not sure what drive options you have though.
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Old 19 September 2006, 19:30   #8
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IPS is only for big boats. you think volvo are pricey have u seen the yam prices then och.

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Old 20 September 2006, 08:47   #9
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IPS is only for big boats. you think volvo are pricey have u seen the yam prices then och.

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Old 20 September 2006, 13:47   #10
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i dont think a volvo ips is the ideal solution for a rib. dont think it would fit properly and it would hit stuff all the time.
IPS looks great BUT I would be very worried about hitting a submerged object. At least a sterndrive or outboard will kick up - there is nowhere for the IPS to go other than through the hull......
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Old 20 September 2006, 18:50   #11
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What was that for a unit or to service it. volvos are dear to buy same as yam's but volvo put a lot of money in to training and back up for there dearlers wich then in turn makes a beter boating life for you. yam are good but not as good as volvos.

not a volvo rep or any thing just work for french marine. we are deals for them all reli just find volvo ther best.

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Old 20 September 2006, 19:24   #12
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.... there is nowhere for the IPS to go other than through the hull......
You need to do a bit more Googling, Cod. They break away on severe impact.
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Old 22 September 2006, 21:24   #13
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Went to the Southampton boat show
looking for possable diesel engines looked at the new BMW (badged Yammar)
3 lt turbo total dry weight 310 kg aganst the yanmar 315
and the Volvo D6 310hp not a massive diffance in price on any of them.
The BMW looked a modern engine but no track record
I did like the idear that the leg on the Volvo is there own. and that you only have the leg serviced once a year cost £200
any thoughts
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You need to do a bit more Googling, Cod. They break away on severe impact.

You missed the word "supposed"

Also the props look very vulnerable facing forward with nothing to protect them!!!
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You need to do a bit more Googling, Cod. They break away on severe impact.

That's still going to bugger you up more than a sterndrive kicking up though-assuming they actually DO break away

At a guess it'd probably involve a specially reinforced hull as well-adding to the cost somewhat.
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