Advice Please - Page 2

ribraff · 17 January 2009, 09:11

My apologies, a correction.... the engine was originally registered to Sidmouth Lifeboat but then registered to PPT

Ian Sharlot · 17 January 2009, 09:31

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Originally Posted by ribraff

My apologies, a correction.... the engine was originally registered to Sidmouth Lifeboat but then registered to PPT

Correction.... the engine was origonally registered to Sidmouth Lifeboat and on just checking the brunswick marine website is still registered to Sidmouth lifeboat (ser no 1B286896) and I have no connection to any PPT and never have done......

biffer · 17 January 2009, 10:04

why has it taken so long to try to back it when a problem was found on installation, a few thou on a shaft is bad

ribraff · 17 January 2009, 10:16

Jamie will be on here soon with all the details as it is now open for public discussion.

Jono Garton · 17 January 2009, 10:59

Guys

This will be my last post on this thread as I didn't want and don't want this to get in to a public argument.

I can confirm this sale is nothing to do with Ian Sharlot or PPT.

I am an honest guy and I do treat others as I expect to be treated, if I buy something without seeing it I expect I am saving money on travelling and time and take the risk or i go and view it. You will see in the advert a full running history was offered. The warranty and registration is easily checked on marine powers website, me or the vendor had nothing to hide.

At the request of the Vendor the engine was run for 1 hour in fresh water before going on the pallet and shipped, it was running like a dream. I can sleep at night knowing this. The damage occurred while in the possession of the new owner.

I will do the correct thing by the customer to keep everyone happy, please remember I only started this thread to see what peoples point of view was.

Jono

ribraff · 17 January 2009, 11:06

Jono

With all due respect you decided to start this thread and so it is only fair that Jamie put forward his side of events. Jamie is working today installing yet another new Opti on one of my new builds so as soon as he gets time he will be here.

PeterR · 17 January 2009, 16:36

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Originally Posted by ribraff

Jono

With all due respect you decided to start this thread and so it is only fair that Jamie put forward his side of events. Jamie is working today installing yet another new Opti on one of my new builds so as soon as he gets time he will be here.

I would like to encourage for this year the moderaters to step in early to discourage slagging.And whats it got to do with Olmec i dont beleave he was the purchaser.So my vote goes to stop the thread and leave it for the two parties to sort out.

in private

BruceB · 17 January 2009, 18:11

I have been reading this but don't fully understand the sequence of events here.
1. Was the runout found on installation and it then threw a rod? In which case it wouldn't have been sensible to run the motor IMO?
2. Or was the motor delivered with runout and a rod thrown.?
3. Or was the motor run and then runout found on the shaft, after the rod had been thrown?
The thread isn't immediately clear on which of the three possible scenarios is the correct one.

John Kennett · 17 January 2009, 19:08

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Originally Posted by PeterR

I would like to encourage for this year the moderaters to step in early to discourage slagging.

I don't see any slagging going on. Everything seems very civil so far.

fred bolton · 17 January 2009, 19:28

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Originally Posted by ribraff

Jono

With all due respect you decided to start this thread and so it is only fair that Jamie put forward his side of events. Jamie is working today installing yet another new Opti on one of my new builds so as soon as he gets time he will be here.

Nobody is stopping him. Jono appears to be trying to canvas opinion as to what is fair in this case, it seems that he has no legal liability

Bigmuz7 · 17 January 2009, 22:54

So come on gents, spit it out.. Motor is under warranty anyway isnt it? as long as its transferable .. honest sale by honest seller, honest purchase by willing buyer,.. shit happens .. whats the answer ? phone Barrus and get it sorted

Downhilldai · 17 January 2009, 22:59

It would appear not:

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Originally Posted by ribraff

... however the engine was registered commercially to an Ian Sharlot (PPT) so the warranty is shortened.

Nos4r2 · 18 January 2009, 01:03

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Originally Posted by Downhilldai

It would appear not:

As it's in debate,without including any connection,registration etc (or lack of) to Ian Sharlot surely the use of the engine on the Sidmouth Lifeboat would count as commercial use and drop the warranty down to 1 year anyway.

Downhilldai · 18 January 2009, 01:19

I would have thought so.

biffer · 18 January 2009, 09:26

having purchased a few bits over the years my feelings are that if i've had something for a few months and it went wrong, bitter as it may be i would have to swollow, if i found something wrong straight away i would back it straight away. all the guys seem standup and honest, but shit still happens to these people as well.

Ian M · 18 January 2009, 10:03

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Originally Posted by BruceB

I have been reading this but don't fully understand the sequence of events here.
1. Was the runout found on installation and it then threw a rod? In which case it wouldn't have been sensible to run the motor IMO?
2. Or was the motor delivered with runout and a rod thrown.?
3. Or was the motor run and then runout found on the shaft, after the rod had been thrown?
The thread isn't immediately clear on which of the three possible scenarios is the correct one.

Seconded. What was the sequence of events?

Bigmuz7 · 18 January 2009, 10:04

It wouldn't be the first time peeps on here have had a good response from Barrus where they have replaced something not long out of warranty, didnt someone get an opti compressor ? I seem to remember, and it was out of warranty

tonymac · 18 January 2009, 12:19

You may have given up posting in this thread Jono but I hope you are still reading.

I have nothing but the highest regard for Jono. What other trade member will come across a difficulty and put it out there for discussion and opinion from his possible client base? Fair play to you Jono.

We can see here that he is trying to do what is right rather than what is simply legal.

I can personally vouch for the fact that Jono and PBS are trustworthy and try to do the best for their customers. I bought a boat from Jono last year and both he and I danced around the trust element of the sale (both not knowing each other). I eventually paid all monies up front and waited patiently for the ferry from Wales to deliver my boat to Dublin. Said boat duly arrived and was and is fantastic - all that Jono had said.

Yet again Jono you are being decent, up front and honest in this deal. You have done nothing wrong. As others have said - shit happens - but this particular load just happened on someone else's patch - not your problem Jono!

Brian · 18 January 2009, 16:41

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Originally Posted by Bigmuz7

It wouldn't be the first time peeps on here have had a good response from Barrus where they have replaced something not long out of warranty, didnt someone get an opti compressor ? I seem to remember, and it was out of warranty

I must say that I have had excellent responses from Barrus when I had a succession of leg failures. 4 free legs!!
And all but the first leg were out-of-warranty.

PeterM · 18 January 2009, 17:15

Surely this will come down to a case of while you may feel bad it broke, there is nothing that you could have done , or realistically can do now. Hindsight is a wonderful thing - 'if only this & that etc'.

Like has been said stuff breaks - sometimes its the day after you buy it , sometimes its years.

If you want a warranty buy it new & pay the costs that go with it. All credit for clearly feeling a degree of guilt about it (athough unwarranted in my opinion).

Lets be honest £250, or what ever you made brokerage, wont make a bugger of differance to the cost of fixing it, & the purchaser has had some bad luck - these things happen to us all, hopefully rarely in the boating world but every so often they just do..............

PS - just coz he 'sounds' honest doesn't mean he is - he may be , but he may not - cynical I know but thats my experience