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22 December 2010, 20:19
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Alternative to Universal joints in outdrives?
I am wondering if it would be possible to make a hydraulic outdrive. i.e. engine to a hudraulic pump. the pump is linked to a turbine via high pressure hoses and the turbine turns the prop thus removing the u.j. Could this system work?
would it be possible to have a hydraulic system that could generate the speed to rotate a prop?
just a thought while I had a moment to spare
your thoughts and observations on the possibilty of a hydraulic outdrive
TSM
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22 December 2010, 20:31
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Country: UK - England
Town: Salisbury
Boat name: Blue C
Make: XS 600
Length: 6m +
Engine: 125hp Opti
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22 December 2010, 20:43
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Country: UK - England
Boat name: Little Wing
Make: Searider 5.4
Length: 5m +
Engine: Tohatsu 90
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Quote:
Originally Posted by two stroke mick
would it be possible to have a hydraulic system that could generate the speed to rotate a prop?
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Fossor has this type of drive.
We used this vessel laying seismic cable off the coast near Staithes last year because of its manouevrebility.
There's a propellor tower on each stern corner which rotates through 360 degrees and trims up so the boat can take the bottom.
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22 December 2010, 20:43
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Country: Finland
Town: Helsinki
Boat name: SR 5.4
Make: Avon
Length: 4m +
Engine: Toh1 3,5 Yam 90/2S
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Quote:
Originally Posted by two stroke mick
I am wondering if it would be possible to make a hydraulic outdrive. i.e. engine to a hudraulic pump. the pump is linked to a turbine via high pressure hoses and the turbine turns the prop thus removing the u.j. Could this system work?
would it be possible to have a hydraulic system that could generate the speed to rotate a prop?
just a thought while I had a moment to spare
your thoughts and observations on the possibilty of a hydraulic outdrive
TSM
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When i was studying i used to drive a sight-seen boat that had this type of system. The propellers was directly attached to the hydraulic engine. Hydraulic pump was driven by a Deutz diesel. As the engine was inside the drive, in front of the propeller, don't think it was a particularly efficient system, but as it was a low speed displacement boat it did not harm to much. So Yes, its possible but depends on the application if it makes any sense or not?
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22 December 2010, 22:00
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Country: UK - N Ireland
Town: Bangor, Co Down
Boat name: Ribeye & Tremlett 15
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Originally Posted by ashbypower
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yes, got one in my cruiser.............and you will find me in there too...........
http://www.bountyboats.co.uk/sunbridge30.html
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22 December 2010, 22:11
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Country: UK - England
Town: Southampton
Boat name: SMH Rib / War Shot
Make: Ribtec / Scorpion
Length: 4m +
Engine: 100hp Yam/150hp opt
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Not very efficient unfortunately
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22 December 2010, 22:41
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It was quite common to find this sort of drive retro fitted to give mechanical drive to classic sailing boats due to the fact they couldn't always get the engine where it needed to be for a direct drive to the prop.
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22 December 2010, 22:46
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Member
Country: UK - Wales
Town: Southampton
Boat name: DynaMoHumm/ SRV/deja
Make: Avon8.4, 5.4 & 4.777
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Quote:
Originally Posted by DM
Fossor
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What's under that orange cover?
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22 December 2010, 22:55
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RIBnet supporter
Country: UK - England
Boat name: Little Wing
Make: Searider 5.4
Length: 5m +
Engine: Tohatsu 90
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Rogue Wave
What's under that orange cover?
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It's a gun.
It's purpose was to deter Chewy and the Staithes massive from nicking the sonar cable which cost £20k per 100yard section.
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23 December 2010, 07:50
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Make: 20ft
Length: 6m +
Engine: Honda BF150
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Eff
Quote:
Originally Posted by Searider
Not very efficient unfortunately
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Hydraulics run at 30% efficient, rest is heat.
Engine runs also 30%.
So thats 30% twice.
Advantage, very high power density, and small sized, when compared to other propulsions.
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23 December 2010, 08:36
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Country: UK - England
Town: Up Norf
Make: Avon SR4,Tremlett 23
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Quote:
Originally Posted by DM
It's a gun.
It's purpose was to deter Chewy and the Staithes massive from nicking the sonar cable which cost £20k per 100yard section.
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We'd have only have used it as mooring lines!
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23 December 2010, 13:04
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Country: UK - England
Town: yorkshire
Boat name: little vicky
Make: avon ex RNLI
Length: 3m +
Engine: tohatsu
Join Date: Mar 2008
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Quote:
Originally Posted by DM
It's a gun.
It's purpose was to deter Chewy and the Staithes massive from nicking the sonar cable which cost £20k per 100yard section.
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wouldent be the Staithes lot ,,having had past experience of this more like the Skinningrove lot just up the coast from there
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23 December 2010, 23:11
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Town: Leicester
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Make: Ribcraft
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How about a hydraulic coupling to a waterjet, how inefficient would that be?
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