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29 January 2005, 03:37
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Member
Country: Canada
Town: Bella Coola
Boat name: Water Rocket
Make: Polaris
Length: 9m +
Engine: twin Yamaha 150 hp
Join Date: Nov 2003
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Anti cavitation plates
Hey gang,
I was wondering if anybody uses the anti cavitation plates on their outboards?
I've seen a few on outboards and wonder if they are worth the money.
I was thinking about cutting one out of a aluminium sheet 1/4 inch thick with our plasma cutter. I don't like the idea of drilling the Honda's anti cavitation plate to mount it if you folks don't figure they are worth it.
I've seen a nozzle that goes all round the prop on 50 hp. Hondas in US fishing magazines - looks like it would protect the "wheel"
over the waves
hank
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29 January 2005, 07:11
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Country: UK - England
Town: Reading
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Hank, opinion seems divided on this topic but generally people seem to find them most useful on smaller RIBs. If you do a couple of searches on 'doel fins/doelfins' and 'hydro foils/hydrofoils' you should find plenty of food for thought. HTH.
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29 January 2005, 09:41
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Member
Country: UK - Wales
Town: Southampton
Boat name: DynaMoHumm/ SRV/deja
Make: Avon8.4, 5.4 & 4.777
Length: 8m +
Engine: Cat3126 Yam 90 &70
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Nah!
First, the bits on the engine are anti ventilation plates, not anti cavitation. They help prevent air from being entrained into the propeller from the surface. Cavitation is another matter altogether and only occurs on high speed heavily loaded propellers and can soon destroy your prop.
If a boat is properly designed and the engine is correctly installed, there is no need for them.
They can also help get a boat onto plane and/or help prevent porpoising if it needs that. but if a boat is well designed and set up, they will probably just slow it down a bit.
Another point is that the Doel fins put an extra strain on the vent plates which occasionally would result in a fracture of aforementioned plate. (ooh err Missus!)
Have you got problems or are the adverts talking to you, you could experiment by plasma cutting yourself a pait of small trim tabs, although on a 4.5 they would have to be small
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29 January 2005, 12:59
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Member
Country: UK - Scotland
Make: HumberOceanOffshore
Length: 8m +
Engine: Volvo KAD300/DPX
Join Date: Oct 2002
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Rogue Wave
...by plasma cutting yourself a pait of small trim tabs, ....
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29 January 2005, 15:06
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Member
Country: UK - England
Town: Leicester
Boat name: Vixen
Make: Ribcraft
Length: 6m +
Engine: Suzuki OB 175
MMSI: 235071839
Join Date: Jun 2004
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Just what I thought JW! Taking a plasma cutter to my chrome dome isnt my idea of fun and the resulting trim tabs wouldnt be very large.
Havent forgotten about sending you the BSAC Outboard maint notes mentioned months ago, am slowly working through the photos and graphics so that they are all home grown content and no copyright issues.
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29 January 2005, 21:36
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Member
Country: UK - Wales
Town: Southampton
Boat name: DynaMoHumm/ SRV/deja
Make: Avon8.4, 5.4 & 4.777
Length: 8m +
Engine: Cat3126 Yam 90 &70
MMSI: 42
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whats a chrome dome? is that what Johnny Fuller is developing!
It looks like the fat fingers have struck again I meant a pair, but I don't think they would do much good on a 4.5
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30 January 2005, 09:17
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Member
Country: UK - England
Town: scotland
Boat name: Leviathan
Make: Phantom
Length: 8m +
Engine: GM Diesels
Join Date: Jan 2003
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Rogue Wave
whats a chrome dome? is that what Johnny Fuller is developing!
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Cheeky oul Fkkr!
When are you gonna bring that fork tounge of yours back to Boatmad you grumpy oul Hipocrite?
PS.thanks for you and Jaspers help mooovin Matts pimp-mobile yesterday, much appreciated
Johnny bald dude
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30 January 2005, 09:21
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Town: scotland
Boat name: Leviathan
Make: Phantom
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Engine: GM Diesels
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PPS. motor sounded nice!
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30 January 2005, 13:24
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Member
Country: UK - Wales
Town: Southampton
Boat name: DynaMoHumm/ SRV/deja
Make: Avon8.4, 5.4 & 4.777
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Engine: Cat3126 Yam 90 &70
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yeah and the Antifoul tasted foul.
It was a pleasure to watch you reversing
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30 January 2005, 15:01
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Member
Country: UK - England
Town: Falmouth, Kernow!
Boat name: PlayM8
Make: AVON
Length: 4m +
Engine: Honda 4stroke 45
Join Date: Oct 2004
Posts: 72
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Hydro Shield
I'm thinking about getting one of these :~ www.hydro-shield.com
It will be for my Honda 45 (4stroke) which is bolted to my SR4.
Any views anybody?
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30 January 2005, 15:20
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Member
Country: UK - England
Town: london
Boat name: Frances May
Make: vailant DR450
Length: 4m +
Engine: mercury 50 hp
Join Date: Sep 2003
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hydro sheild looks good let me know how you get on with it
dan
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30 January 2005, 16:06
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Member
Country: Canada
Town: Bella Coola
Boat name: Water Rocket
Make: Polaris
Length: 9m +
Engine: twin Yamaha 150 hp
Join Date: Nov 2003
Posts: 156
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Thanks for the opinions
I do like the look of that Hydro Shield
back to the drawing board
hank
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31 January 2005, 08:18
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Member
Country: UK - Wales
Town: Southampton
Boat name: DynaMoHumm/ SRV/deja
Make: Avon8.4, 5.4 & 4.777
Length: 8m +
Engine: Cat3126 Yam 90 &70
MMSI: 42
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Jonny Fuller
Cheeky oul Fkkr!
When are you gonna bring that fork tounge of yours back to Boatmad you grumpy oul Hipocrite?
Johnny bald dude
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As soon as you recognise the difference between a forked toungue and a Barbed tounge!
to get back on track does that Hydro shield fasten to the bottom of the boat. I am afraid the picture wasn't to clear for me
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31 January 2005, 08:38
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Member
Country: Netherlands
Town: friesland
Boat name: smokkelaer
Make: revenger
Length: 7m +
Engine: 225 Optimax
Join Date: Jan 2005
Posts: 279
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Stainless steel Hydrofoils.
Hank.
I have made one out of high pollished Stainless steel and it's perfect. Using it now for the third year. Made for a f115 on a 6 mtr rib. Planning at 2300 rpm!! and leaving les waves. Smooth ride.
Quote:
Originally Posted by hank
Hey gang,
I was wondering if anybody uses the anti cavitation plates on their outboards?
I've seen a few on outboards and wonder if they are worth the money.
I was thinking about cutting one out of a aluminium sheet 1/4 inch thick with our plasma cutter. I don't like the idea of drilling the Honda's anti cavitation plate to mount it if you folks don't figure they are worth it.
I've seen a nozzle that goes all round the prop on 50 hp. Hondas in US fishing magazines - looks like it would protect the "wheel"
over the waves
hank
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31 January 2005, 08:47
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Member
Country: Netherlands
Town: friesland
Boat name: smokkelaer
Make: revenger
Length: 7m +
Engine: 225 Optimax
Join Date: Jan 2005
Posts: 279
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Stainless steel Hydrofoils.
Hank.
I have made one out of high pollished Stainless steel and it's perfect. Using it now for the third year. Made for a f115 on a 6 mtr rib. Planning at 2300 rpm!! and leaving les waves. Smooth ride.
see the picture.
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31 January 2005, 10:28
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Member
Country: UK - England
Town: scotland
Boat name: Leviathan
Make: Phantom
Length: 8m +
Engine: GM Diesels
Join Date: Jan 2003
Posts: 1,437
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Rogue Wave
As soon as you recognise the difference between a forked tounge and a Barbed tounge!
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Oh I do!
I guess you're staying with the fairies then!
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31 January 2005, 11:23
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Member
Country: UK - England
Town: Farnborough
Boat name: Narcissus
Make: Cobra
Length: 7m +
Engine: Optimax 225
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Yes, it was like watching ballet.
Quote:
Originally Posted by Rogue Wave
It was a pleasure to watch you reversing
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02 February 2005, 02:56
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Member
Country: Canada
Town: Bella Coola
Boat name: Water Rocket
Make: Polaris
Length: 9m +
Engine: twin Yamaha 150 hp
Join Date: Nov 2003
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Hi Danny,
Did you post a picture?
hank
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02 February 2005, 09:27
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Town: friesland
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Hank
Quote:
Originally Posted by hank
Hi Danny,
Did you post a picture?
hank
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I hope this is what you mean ?
Dan.
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02 February 2005, 17:31
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Member
Country: UK - Wales
Town: Southampton
Boat name: DynaMoHumm/ SRV/deja
Make: Avon8.4, 5.4 & 4.777
Length: 8m +
Engine: Cat3126 Yam 90 &70
MMSI: 42
Join Date: Dec 2003
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Quote:
Originally Posted by MadMat
Yes, it was like watching ballet.
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obviously the Bolshey Ballet and not the graceful Bolshoi
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