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28 June 2023, 08:35
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Country: Ireland
Town: cork
Boat name: na
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Length: 6m +
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Auxiliary storage
Hi all
My Avon tends to take a battering in the coastal waters near me and I don't really want to have the added transom strain of having my aux on its mount all the time or risk snapping the bracket.had anyone any ways of mounting it to an a frame for storage? It's a 4hp 2 stroke so light and manageable.
Thanks
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28 June 2023, 09:17
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Country: UK - England
Town: Cheltenham
Make: Marex
Length: 9m +
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I just put mine in a locker until I wanted it.
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28 June 2023, 11:41
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Country: UK - England
Town: Up North and right a bit
Make: XS500/Merc340/Bic245
Length: 5m +
Engine: Mar 60/20/3.5/Hon2.3
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Hi,
We carry the aux inboard clamped to a timber bracket bolted through an existing drainage hole on the transom knee. Accept not ready to use in an emergency but only a tiddler so easy enough to deploy…hopefully.
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28 June 2023, 12:01
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Country: Ireland
Town: cork
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I don't have space for a locker. That other option looks interesting.my issue is space.i have the a frame and a bench right in front of it.was hoping to stand it/bolt it on to the a fram upright
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29 June 2023, 18:10
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Country: Ireland
Town: cork
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Any better ideas than using ratchet straps
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30 June 2023, 07:16
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Country: UK - Scotland
Town: Aberdeenshire
Boat name: Sula
Make: Ribcraft 4.8m
Length: 4m +
Engine: Tohatsu 70hp + aux
MMSI: 235087213
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Originally Posted by jamesd2021
Any better ideas than using ratchet straps
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Don’t knock the ratchet strap method.
I boat in the north east of Scotland or Atlantic west coast, so about as lumpy as it gets. I have a Mariner 4hp auxiliary on the back and use a ratchet strap connected to a stainless u bolt on the transom knee. That’s the only thing keeping the auxiliary from breaking on the saddle and ending up at the bottom of the sea. The strap goes around the engine power head and through the pull start.
However you have an A Frame and bench seat, so space at a premium. Here’s my set up from a few years ago.
https://www.rib.net/forum/f8/auxilia...age-78353.html
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30 June 2023, 07:46
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Country: Ireland
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Ya I ideally want to stand it attached to the a frame but was hoping there was maybe some bracket that could be bolted to it to attach the engine on to and keep the skeg off the ground.its a light engine but don't want to put ratchet pressure where it shouldn't be
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24 August 2023, 21:58
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Country: Ireland
Town: cork
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Just to finalise this, is there anything stopping me having the engine clamped directly to the transom and tilted up when not in use?it's a long shaft so easier in the water when tilted down
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24 August 2023, 22:38
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Country: UK - Scotland
Town: north ayrshire
Boat name: charlie girl
Make: S/R5.4/regal3760
Length: 10m +
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Quote:
Originally Posted by jamesd2021
Just to finalise this, is there anything stopping me having the engine clamped directly to the transom and tilted up when not in use?it's a long shaft so easier in the water when tilted down
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No reason why you can't just be carefull its not bouncing on the tilt locks as they break easily. A piece of wood tied in between the leg & clamp bracket is often better than the engine bouncing on the latch
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25 August 2023, 04:47
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Country: USA
Town: NorCal
Boat name: SHARKY
Make: AB
Length: 4m +
Engine: Honda BF75 & BF5
Join Date: Dec 2009
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Quote:
Originally Posted by jamesd2021
Just to finalise this, is there anything stopping me having the engine clamped directly to the transom and tilted up when not in use?it's a long shaft so easier in the water when tilted down
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Got a photo of how you have it clamped to the transom? Taken from multiple angles would be useful.
Short or long shaft doesn't make much of a difference. A strap is always good though. If the main is a long shaft the kicker should most likely be a long shaft.
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25 August 2023, 04:58
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I haven't done it yet but spotted a sale as with the same boat where he had the aux clamped straight to the transom and was curious why it isn't done more for these boats.
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25 August 2023, 11:30
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Country: UK - England
Town: Retford
Boat name: Spy-sea-one
Make: Excel 435
Length: 4m +
Engine: Suzuki Outboard/25/4
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Had mine clamped to a seat backrest at one time but found needing it in a hurry wasn’t an option.
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25 August 2023, 11:50
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This is what I saw in another for sale ad and was wondering why do I need an aux bracket if this works or is it a bad idea
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26 August 2023, 00:19
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Country: USA
Town: NorCal
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Make: AB
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If the transom won't handle that little amount of weight something is wrong and it needs to be repaired before using the boat.
Try setting the kicker on your boat barely clamped and movable. Turn the kicker to port, meaning tiller towards starboard, and move it over until it hits something to the port side, hopefully not the prop before something else hits. Tighten the clamps. Put it straight and see if with the main all the way down you can turn lock to lock with the main. If so you can put the kicker straight ahead and use the main to steer as a rudder. There are also rods that can clip on quickly to the outboards to steer both main and kicker at the same time, giving far better steering capabilities. Much of that ability comes down to clearances. You can test move them in unison and see if things clear. Some folks rig up a remote throttle near the helm very easily by using a lawn mower type throttle, and with some advanced fabrication a remote shifter can be installed, which is a more involved project all around.
Supposing you are still searching for an outboard, take the boat with you, and give the outboard a quick test fit with permission from current owner. Gotta hear it run anyway and the transom makes a good test stand. You could even bring your own hose muffs to hook up to a garden hose while running. Also the general rule is 1HP per meter of boat. So a 7m boat would be best with an 8HP which happens to be a smoother running 2 cylinder. Long or short shaft is often determined by what the main is. A dedicated fuel tank is also highly recommended.
If you have something in front of the transom where it would mount like a tower/arch, you could strap the kicker up to the tower/arch. A loop, ring whatever could even be welded to the tower/arch so it doesn't slip, for strapping the outboard handle or such too. Depends on the outboard you own or purchase what to hook to on the kicker.
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26 August 2023, 07:19
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Country: UK - Scotland
Town: north ayrshire
Boat name: charlie girl
Make: S/R5.4/regal3760
Length: 10m +
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Id agree you'll be fine stored like that
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26 August 2023, 15:39
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Country: UK - Scotland
Town: Aberdeenshire
Boat name: Sula
Make: Ribcraft 4.8m
Length: 4m +
Engine: Tohatsu 70hp + aux
MMSI: 235087213
Join Date: Jun 2007
Posts: 4,607
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The transom is perfect spot for the auxilliary if it’ll fit, but as mentioned it needs to be locked in position somehow or you’ll rattle it to bits. The saddle just isn’t robust enough and the tilt lock is insufficient, especially around 4hp.
I’ve got a long shaft Mariner 4hp, and it’s important to note that it will trail in a following sea, and rough water, etc. I made the mistake of assuming just because I hadn’t used the auxilliary it didn’t need to be flushed at the same time as the main engine. It absolutely does, the water pump on the engines is prone to salting up. The tell-tale can also splutter, part of the reason I carry nylon strimmer line which is very effective.
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26 August 2023, 16:08
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Country: Ireland
Town: cork
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So would I be ok to mount it as in the pic I had with it tilted up and locked
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