Reply
 
Thread Tools Search this Thread
 
Old 27 March 2015, 08:48   #1
Member
 
Country: UK - Scotland
Town: Edinburgh
Make: Maritime Partners
Length: 10m +
Engine: 2 x Volvo D6 inboard
Join Date: Feb 2014
Posts: 21
Avon Searider Engine Choice

Hi All,

Currently looking for advice from searider veterans on engine choice for Avon searider 5.4m. I have been looking at several choices namely 90 hp's first would be a 2 stroke Yamaha, 2 stroke Mariner Barrus fast post immersion starter or a Suzuki df90 four stroke i'm inclined to go with the suzuki as it's supposed to be quieter more economical however its coming in at 154kg which is just a kilo under the recommended max weight for the transom according to Zodiac milpro website although I thought that Avon's recommendation was lower that 155kg , The mariner is also rigged for an umbilical so allows flushing on land pretty easily as well as being able to restart pretty easily following an inversion although the searider itself hasn't been fitted with a self righting frame Yam would come from a private seller and can't be quite sure of the hours however looks to be in very good condition for year! Any advice greatly appreciated
__________________
PinkPanther is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 27 March 2015, 09:18   #2
RIBnet admin team
 
Nos4r2's Avatar
 
Country: UK - England
Town: The wilds of Wiltshire
Boat name: Dominator
Make: SR5.4
Length: 7m +
Engine: Yam 85
MMSI: 235055163
Join Date: Jul 2005
Posts: 13,069
RIBase
Avon's weight recommendation was higher-175kg IIRC, but search it on here as the info is archived somewhere.A 90 Optimax is just within the the weight allowed by them.

If you can get a Mariner with post-immersion restart kit on, you'll be a lucky guy.They rarely make their way into private hands without the kit being removed. Realistically,you'll be unable to right the boat without a self righting A-frame so it's a bit of a pointless thing to have unless you go the whole hog AND keep it all maintained, which costs money and time.

Realistically, the 4 stroke will be cheaper to run but less fun. 30 kg extra on the stern makes a noticeable difference. If you can stomach the extra fuel bills for the Yam, buy it.
__________________
Need spares,consoles,consumables,hire,training or even a new boat?

Please click HERE and HERE and support our Trade Members.

Join up as a Trade member or Supporter HERE
Nos4r2 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 27 March 2015, 09:57   #3
Member
 
Country: UK - England
Town: Margate / Ramsgate
Boat name: Bumbl
Make: Scorpion
Length: 8m +
Engine: Yanmar diesel
Join Date: Feb 2002
Posts: 2,837
I've not had a 5.4 but I recall Stuart Hopkins who has had a few says the 90 opti makes the stern too heavy and spoils balance as a result ??
__________________
Daniel is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 27 March 2015, 10:11   #4
Member
 
Country: UK - England
Town: Bristol
Make: Ribcraft
Length: 5m +
Engine: Yamaha
Join Date: May 2006
Posts: 4,299
Yep your right. There is only one engine that suits and balances perfectly . Yam 90 two stroke. Its a narrow beam hull. Anything more than 125 kgs and it sits too heavy.
Ive owned 5 and driven versions with honda 90 and optis and balance was bad compared to the others.
35 is doable with F70 yam as 120kgs
__________________
Member of S.A.B.S. West Country Division
matt h is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 27 March 2015, 10:37   #5
RIBnet admin team
 
Nos4r2's Avatar
 
Country: UK - England
Town: The wilds of Wiltshire
Boat name: Dominator
Make: SR5.4
Length: 7m +
Engine: Yam 85
MMSI: 235055163
Join Date: Jul 2005
Posts: 13,069
RIBase
Quote:
Originally Posted by matt h View Post
Ive owned 5
Only 5?!
__________________
Need spares,consoles,consumables,hire,training or even a new boat?

Please click HERE and HERE and support our Trade Members.

Join up as a Trade member or Supporter HERE
Nos4r2 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 27 March 2015, 10:38   #6
RIBnet admin team
 
Nos4r2's Avatar
 
Country: UK - England
Town: The wilds of Wiltshire
Boat name: Dominator
Make: SR5.4
Length: 7m +
Engine: Yam 85
MMSI: 235055163
Join Date: Jul 2005
Posts: 13,069
RIBase
Quote:
Originally Posted by Daniel View Post
I've not had a 5.4 but I recall Stuart Hopkins who has had a few says the 90 opti makes the stern too heavy and spoils balance as a result ??
I'd agree, I was just saying that they were originally rated to take one. Never said they were any good with one on
__________________
Need spares,consoles,consumables,hire,training or even a new boat?

Please click HERE and HERE and support our Trade Members.

Join up as a Trade member or Supporter HERE
Nos4r2 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 27 March 2015, 11:40   #7
Member
 
Country: UK - England
Town: Royal Wootton Bassett
Length: 8m +
Engine: 250
Join Date: Jul 2008
Posts: 8,047
Opti is way to heavy
__________________
whisper is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 28 March 2015, 14:32   #8
Member
 
HUMBER P4VWL's Avatar
 
Country: UK - Wales
Town: N Wales Chester
Boat name: Mr Smith
Make: Humber
Length: 6m +
Join Date: Feb 2009
Posts: 5,238
Whilst not AS balanced as some options, the Opti is a cracking engine in the 1.5L 90hp option and on the 5.4 boat is VERY quick. We owned one for about 10 years and it was brilliant. If you find a clean boat with one on, or you need an engine and you find a clean one, I wouldn't discount it.

You'll pay more for an older school, older engined Yam. I'd rather the newer engine personally.

It was perfectly balanced at speed, it was at rest that the waterline on the transom was low, so the deck was often wet. Especially if reversing. But you'll get that to some degree with the SR whatever you put on. They all have wet decks as there is not usually any sunken water well at the rear!
__________________
HUMBER P4VWL is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply


Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are Off
Pingbacks are Off
Refbacks are Off




All times are GMT. The time now is 06:11.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.8 Beta 1
Copyright ©2000 - 2024, vBulletin Solutions, Inc.