Best 150 hp outboard for this rib...

joakimhansson · 26 June 2006, 00:01

http://www.atlantisribs.com/

I want around 150 hp. The weight of the boat is around 800kg, and they say it makes 64-66mph with a 150 hp.

Sooo....

Evinrude E-tec 150-200hp
Mercury Optimax 150-200hp
Yamaha V-Max 150-200hp
Suzuki 4-stroke 150-200hp
Yamaha F series 150-200hp
Mercury Verado 150-200hp

Not easy, fueleconomy, speed, noise, quality, price.

codprawn · 26 June 2006, 01:50

Go for the lightest one you can find!!!

Andy_Rs600 · 26 June 2006, 08:55

If you want top speed i wouldn't go with the Opti. We have one on the dive boat, and low down it's great, and very reliable. However, it smokes, drinks fuel at high RPM, and always sounds like its about to fall apart!

Alice · 26 June 2006, 09:11

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Originally Posted by Andy_Rs600

If you want top speed i wouldn't go with the Opti. We have one on the dive boat, and low down it's great, and very reliable. However, it smokes, drinks fuel at high RPM, and always sounds like its about to fall apart!

Totally agree with all of that other than smokes. Wouldn't swap though.

Hugh Jardon · 26 June 2006, 09:40

check out the prices first as that will be a major decision factor, never ever noticed any smoke and only smelt my engine being 2 stroke twice, otherwise you would think it was a 4 stroker polution wise

noisier at idle but i like that

noisier at lower speeds yes, but open up a bit and a glorious noise and to be honest at speed the wind is the noisiest thing out there

if i had a choice again and all prices were the same for all engines i would very seriously consider the opti....love it, no complaints

joakimhansson · 26 June 2006, 10:35

Does anyone say 4-stroke on this boat?

Is it crazy to overpower this boat with more than 150 hp. The verado engine is nice but not on my "want" list.

Right now it is e-tec, v-max/hpdi or opti on my list. But 150, 175 or 200 hp.

Hugh Jardon · 26 June 2006, 10:48

check out for best prices as there are some great deals on optis, yams are really really nice but potentially a lot more money so check out prices and take it from there, the new suz and yam 150 are great, if you wanted 175 personally i would consider the new suz 175

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Originally Posted by joakimhansson

Does anyone say 4-stroke on this boat?

Is it crazy to overpower this boat with more than 150 hp. The verado engine is nice but not on my "want" list.

Right now it is e-tec, v-max/hpdi or opti on my list. But 150, 175 or 200 hp.

joakimhansson · 26 June 2006, 11:24

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Originally Posted by Hugh Jardon

the new suz and yam 150 are great, if you wanted 175 personally i would consider the new suz 175

New Suzuki 4-stroke 175hp weight only 215 kg

, very close to 2-stroke.
Suzuki 200 weight 263 kg

Why not? Suzuki 175 hp 4-stroke.

joakimhansson · 26 June 2006, 11:33

175 hp suzuki is a 4-cyl 2867 cc engine. Must be the first 4-cyl 175 hp engine without compressor? Must be good in fueleconomy? Sounds good or?

codprawn · 26 June 2006, 11:40

Suzuki are also very good with their prices. I would be very tempted.

If I ever re-engine my RIB it will be with a suzuki - the new 300hp one.

Hugh Jardon · 26 June 2006, 11:45

i did a lot of research on the suz 175 as that was a consideration for my boat, it worked out around 700 quid more than my opti 200 cost me, etec were the most expensive but i got a fantastic deal on the opti so very happy.

i wanted the raw grunt of a 2 stroker and on full chat they all seem as thirsty as each other but in the 200 stakes the opti beats the big block etec on fuel and i prefer the colour and look of the opti over the etec.....personal preference of course
on paper it looked good except 4 cyl, if it had been a v6 with a nice growl that would have been even better. i know there are a lot of happy suz owners out there.

have a chat with some suz 175 owners and see what they say, i reckon a good bet myself

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Originally Posted by joakimhansson

175 hp suzuki is a 4-cyl 2867 cc engine. Must be the first 4-cyl 175 hp engine without compressor? Must be good in fueleconomy? Sounds good or?

Brambles · 26 June 2006, 12:36

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Originally Posted by joakimhansson

New Suzuki 4-stroke 175hp weight only 215 kg

, very close to 2-stroke.
Suzuki 200 weight 263 kg

Why not? Suzuki 175 hp 4-stroke.

Why not drop Adam Younger a PM (K4 plus) or email? I seem to remember reading that he is in the process of changing from a Suzi 4 stroke to an Etec on his rib. He should be able to provide some useful data

Cheers

Ian

CJL · 26 June 2006, 13:27

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Originally Posted by Andy_Rs600

If you want top speed i wouldn't go with the Opti. We have one on the dive boat, and low down it's great, and very reliable. However, it smokes, drinks fuel at high RPM, and always sounds like its about to fall apart!

Er, you ever had yours serviced?

One think I've noticed about most engines is how wonderful the Optimax sounds when its in the top end of its rev range. Lovely noise. Out of the water on muffs they sound like F1 cars as well. Gorgeous if you ask me.

Hondas tend to sound like they are battery powered. Its more of loud hum than anything else. Yamahas are kinda like this too.

Etecs I've only tried once but it was a very good "engine sound" if I recall.

Its only a personal preference but I prefer my engine to sound like an engine, not a magimix with 50 AA batteries in it!!!

Chris

fast fred · 26 June 2006, 13:28

any of them would setup on that hull, the verado bein the least favorable,
cuzz of her weight,ribs run bow light as a rule. the more weight you hang on the back the ferther back the center of gravity goes on the hull.
you want the hulls attatude to be within a trimable zone. the more weight on the back the lighter the bow becomes, to bring her back in the zone, so when the trim is full down the bow is not in the sky, you need to make ajustments to the set up. such as, move console more forword,watertank setup, tabs, usein the gas tank to balance out the hull is not agood idea,
sandbag the bow, any one of them or combo of. got a transom shot of one,
she has agood amount of off set, You will not need as much for your 150hp as the 260hp Screamer. you got a good start to some big fun.

joakimhansson · 26 June 2006, 14:01

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Originally Posted by codprawn

If I ever re-engine my RIB it will be with a suzuki - the new 300hp one.

Maybe the comming yam 300 4-stroke?

For me e-tec 150 or 200 is nr.1

codprawn · 26 June 2006, 16:15

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Originally Posted by joakimhansson

Maybe the comming yam 300 4-stroke?

For me e-tec 150 or 200 is nr.1

All depends - the Suzuki is apparently based on the 250hp block - in which case it will be very light for a 300hp 4stroke.

I like the Etecs - if I was buying a 250 I would definitely go for one!!!

Dino · 26 June 2006, 18:51

Funnily enough i'd go for a Yamaha HPDI myself,lovely growl from idle and at cruise just smooooooooooth!

Hugh-did you tow yor rib past my house saturday morning(Calshot)?She looks nice

Hugh Jardon · 26 June 2006, 18:56

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Originally Posted by Dino

Hugh-did you tow yor rib past my house saturday morning(Calshot)?She looks nice

i did that was mee indeed, we centered out of calshot as a friend....yauuuuuuty type ...was there tending to his sails prepping for the season. and nice and convenient as straight out into the solent compared to the drag from chichester

we left around 11pm

jlanng · 28 June 2006, 21:15

I love my Suzi 4 stroke. So quiet and always starts on the button - better than my car in fact!

joakimhansson · 28 June 2006, 21:24

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Originally Posted by jlanng

I love my Suzi 4 stroke. So quiet and always starts on the button - better than my car in fact!

What car do you have?

No, the new 175 suzi looks like the best 4-stroke in this class if you compare to weight.