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18 April 2007, 18:52
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Country: Ireland
Town: Galway, West Eire
Make: Cranchi
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Engine: 2 x Volvo KAD300
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Bravo 3 - Am I asking for trouble
As some of you may know i'm looking to buy a large'ish diesel RIB.
I may have found the ideal one, she has a CMD 4.2 with a Bravo 3 drive.
Question is, am I asking for trouble with the Bravo3 drive? I know they do not couple well with the Yanmar's, is it the same situation with their own CMD engines? Very little hours on this RIB, less than 50
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18 April 2007, 20:03
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Country: Ireland
Town: Dublin
Boat name: WIZARD
Make: REDBAY 7.4
Length: 7m +
Engine: OPTI 225
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is the engine 315????
Basically with any bravo 3 drive is, its a matter of WHEN , and not IF it will blow up !!!!!
Bravo 2 ,1 seem to be a better bet , the Bravo drives were developed to be use with V8 and V6 Petrols engines , that deliver there power smoothly over the rev range ......... Not turbo charged High Torque diesel monsters!!!!!
Volvo and Yamaha are the only companies who have got the outdrive leg right for a big diesel engine , especially in a fast offshore rib.
I think its 5k for a new leg, and it seems some go in 50hrs , some go in 250hrs , but no one seems to get past 250 hrs.
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18 April 2007, 20:19
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Country: Ireland
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Tim - WOW 
Thank's for the comments, so I guess the Bravo 3's werent well engineered, fullstop as opposed to them just not liking the Yanmar's?
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18 April 2007, 23:22
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Country: UK - England
Town: Bristol
Make: Ribcraft
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Blimey!! a weeks ribbing and your new outdrive disintegrates!! surely the manufacturer have something to say about that?? 
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21 April 2007, 11:33
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Country: UK - Scotland
Town: uig
Boat name: reef
Make: delta
Length: 8m +
Engine: yanmar
Join Date: Apr 2005
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bravo 3
i have a bravo 3x and it has over 700hrs on it and no probs if you can drive the boat right no probs
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21 April 2007, 13:03
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Quote:
Originally Posted by rocket s
i have a bravo 3x and it has over 700hrs on it and no probs if you can drive the boat right no probs
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21 April 2007, 17:26
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Country: Ireland
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rocket - Good to hear that. What do you mean by 'driving right' though? Do you mean when the boat gets 'air time'?
Were the bravo 3's badly designed drives, or were they just not capable of handling the torque of diesel engines?
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21 April 2007, 20:57
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Country: Ireland
Town: Dublin
Boat name: wizzard
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Engine: 225 optimax
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The 3x is more of a commercial drive, do you get ,much wave hopping with your Delta, does it have a transom shower fitted
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22 April 2007, 18:01
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Country: UK - Scotland
Town: uig
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bravo 3
try not to take off really bad for any leg and don't nail it from a standing start
and you should have no probs i have still got oringinal leg just the bravo 3 and had no probs with it either fit the shower as well 
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23 April 2007, 18:25
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Country: Other
Town: lagos
Boat name: prince of whales
Make: parker
Length: 9m +
Engine: ib diesel 320
MMSI: 263864370
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bravo 3 leg-yanmar
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try not to take off really bad for any leg and don't nail it from a standing start
and you should have no probs i have still got oringinal leg just the bravo 3 and had no probs with it either fit the shower as well |
You are really looking for trouble with this drive connected to the yanmar, i have had the same configuration years ago and have five b 3 drives on the scrapyard the quickest blew up at 60 hours and the toughest at 275 hours dont buy this configuration.
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24 April 2007, 02:44
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Country: UK - Wales
Town: swansea
Boat name: Too Blue
Make: BLANK
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Engine: Suzuki DT225
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Originally Posted by Paul Wiemers
You are really looking for trouble with this drive connected to the yanmar, i have had the same configuration years ago and have five b 3 drives on the scrapyard the quickest blew up at 60 hours and the toughest at 275 hours dont buy this configuration.
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Which Lagos - I assume you mean Portugal?
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24 April 2007, 07:59
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Quote:
Originally Posted by codprawn
Which Lagos - I assume you mean Portugal?
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Probably a fair guess as he's showing a Portuguese MMSI number 
John
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24 April 2007, 18:05
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Town: lagos
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Engine: ib diesel 320
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lagos portugal?
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Which Lagos - I assume you mean Portugal?
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That s right Lagos Portugal, running a seafari company overhere!
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24 April 2007, 18:48
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Probably a fair guess as he's showing a Portuguese MMSI number
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Damn - how the hell coud I miss something that obvious???
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24 April 2007, 18:50
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Town: swansea
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Paul Wiemers
That s right Lagos Portugal, running a seafari company overhere!
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Know the place well - bet you get quite busy!!!
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26 April 2007, 17:40
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Country: UK - England
Town: Edenbridge
Boat name: Scorpion
Make: Scorpion 8.5mtr
Length: 8m +
Engine: 315hp Yanmar Diesel
Join Date: Aug 2002
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Bravo 3x
Our 300 Yanmar and Bravo 3 drive have done 700 hours and all is fine, If you get the set up right they seem to be ok.
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