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30 April 2004, 15:57
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Bravo 3 Legs
My boat is 16 months old, with 380 hours running time - the Universal Joint in the Bravo 3 leg (coupled to a 250hp Yanmar) has suffered a bearing failure and needs replaced. Does anyone else have experience of Bravo 3 legs and their reliability?
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30 April 2004, 16:27
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Ho Hum, Jim.
Recommend you do a search on this forum on Bravo 3.
There is a lot of comment about them. I will let technical people "talk" to you about your specifics, but.......
Is your leg a Bravo 3X or Bravo 3?
I didn't realise the Yanmar engine at 250hp was still available 16 months ago?
And, is it definately the gimbal bearing that has gone or is it that the engine-leg coupling-joint bolt that has worked loose?
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30 April 2004, 17:32
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Oh Dear, let the spending begin. It's not the usual breakage, possibly more a case of wear and tear. Mind you, the fact that you only get a years warranty on the drive must tell you something!
I assume it's an X drive as it's not very old, if it was a standard Bravo you could buy UJ parts from your local motor factors, but not for an X!!!
What bits have you broken, and I'll give you the prices.
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30 April 2004, 17:42
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Hi Chaps,
When I ordered the boat, I asked for the Bravo 3x - I was told all Bravo 3s were Xs by then (Sept 02). It is definitely the Universal Coupling Joint (Hardy Spicer) that has broken - the gimbal bearing is okay. I'm extremely disappointed that this failure has occured - at the time of my order, I was advised that although there had been numerous failures of Bravo 3s coupled to 300hp Yanmars, there had been few problems with the 250hp - hence the engine selection for my boat.
I will indeed have a search through the Forum for further info.
Thanks.
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30 April 2004, 18:02
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So does it say X on the drive???
If you look at the gimble bearing, it should have a red dot if it's an X.
The Hardy Spicer (cross/bearing assembly in Mercruiser speak) is part no: 862132T priced at £126.79 + vat each.
If that all that you have broken I would fix it myself, to get a dealer to fix it will cost you big bucks. They have a habit of pulling your pants down and giving you a good rogering!!
Out of interest, they're only £25.00 list price on a normal drive!!
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30 April 2004, 18:18
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Jim
Had the same failure on my 'X' leg last year.
Join the club
Cheers
Mark
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30 April 2004, 18:35
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Dirk, thanks for the info - there is indeed a red dot on the gimbal bearing!
Unfortunately the local Mercruiser agent is already working on the UJ - a replacement arrived from Barrus today - he say's we will get it "at cost price" - whatever that means! If the joint fails again, I know who to come to.
Thanks for your help.
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30 April 2004, 18:36
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Mark, out of interest, how many hours had the leg done when the failure occured?
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30 April 2004, 19:08
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Jim
"at cost price" - whatever that means!
Thanks for your help.
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£78.29 + VAT
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03 May 2004, 19:05
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Jim
The engine hours were about 350 but I understand the leg was a replacement for a standard Bravo 3 leg at some point in the past !
Even worse !
Cheers
Mark
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03 May 2004, 19:46
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The Bravo 3x drive, well, well, well, after 800 hours and 3 legs I decided it was time to sell the boat, the leg and engine (300 hp yanmar )was serviced as required by the manufacturers, I have just heard that the 3rd leg has now got problems.......thank god its not mine anymore....installing Yamahas in the new 11m, wish me luck!
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