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25 February 2015, 11:13
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Still lots of questions to be answered !
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Oh my! Such a can of worms this is...
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25 February 2015, 11:57
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Town: Reading
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Okay to explain - we went to Weslake for some engineering advice some time ago - to our amazement they have copied our engine so we are now in a legal dispute which is bloody annoying...
If you want to see our diesel engine in one of our jet tenders look at this You Tube clip, bearing in mind this was a prototype and there was no engine cover on the boat so we could keep an eye on what was going on...we are in the throws of "CE" marking the engine.
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25 February 2015, 12:34
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Country: UK - Scotland
Boat name: imposter
Make: FunYak
Length: 3m +
Engine: Tohatsu 30HP
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andy will you supply / fit the engines to any boat or only your own ribs?
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25 February 2015, 15:11
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Country: UK - England
Town: Reading
Boat name: many
Make: BWM
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We have produced the engines for our own products but we are looking to increase production later this year so they will be available.
I am also keen to produce other diesel engines 4 cylinder (250hp) @ 120kgs and 6 cylinder (450hp) @ 180kgs...but that will be next year...
I am keen to install our V6 petrol (250hp) into a deep sea 21 (with our "Patented" jet unit) as we have produced the engine the same shape as the hull so we should be able to take the seats all the way back to the transom - so the engine is installed under the back seat...more deck space for a smaller boat?
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25 February 2015, 15:22
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Member
Country: UK - Scotland
Town: north ayrshire
Boat name: charlie girl
Make: S/R5.4/regal3760
Length: 10m +
Engine: Suzukidf70 2x6lp 315
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Originally Posted by willk
Oh my! Such a can of worms this is...
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Certainly is but a very interesting one too
If this engine performs as stated & is reliable then it's a potential game changer as no one has yet managed to build a small reliable powerful light diesel for a boat the nearest thing we have seen was the 1.7 merc which sold lots of units but suffered from reliability
It would be good to see a small uk manufacturer give the big boys a run for their money
Unfortunately it already looks like some politics going on with another company who have been involved which is sad as no one wins in those situations
Wish bwm every success good luck to them!
Would be good to be kept up to date with things as they progress
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25 February 2015, 16:53
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Member
Country: UK - England
Town: swanwick/hamble
Boat name: stormchaser
Make: custom rib
Length: 8m +
Engine: inboard/diesel
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Unless I've been asleep for 50 years, I can smell a farmyard, I will apologise publicly if I can here that little boat ticking over and a shot of the engine, that sounds like it's revving far too high for a diesel
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25 February 2015, 17:28
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Member
Country: UK - England
Town: New Milton
Boat name: Jianna
Make: Osprey
Length: 6m +
Engine: 200 E-TEC
MMSI: 235076954
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that sounds like it's revving far too high for a diesel
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Yes, I thought the same. Very interesting.
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25 February 2015, 17:31
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Country: UK - England
Town: The wilds of Wiltshire
Boat name: Dominator
Make: SR5.4
Length: 7m +
Engine: Yam 85
MMSI: 235055163
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Sounds like a supercharger in the open air without an engine cover on to me. I can hear another (more dieselish) note under the whine-but my PC is hooked up to an entry level audiophile system. I doubt you'd hear the sound on normal PC speakers.
Try listening with a high quality pair of headphones and you'll hear it.
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25 February 2015, 18:02
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Member
Country: UK - England
Town: swanwick/hamble
Boat name: stormchaser
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Engine: inboard/diesel
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Sounds like a supercharger in the open air without an engine cover on to me. I can hear another (more dieselish) note under the whine-but my PC is hooked up to an entry level audiophile system. I doubt you'd hear the sound on normal PC speakers.
Try listening with a high quality pair of headphones and you'll hear it.
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You're on drugs Matt
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25 February 2015, 18:29
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Member
Country: UK - Scotland
Town: north ayrshire
Boat name: charlie girl
Make: S/R5.4/regal3760
Length: 10m +
Engine: Suzukidf70 2x6lp 315
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Originally Posted by Nos4r2
Sounds like a supercharger in the open air without an engine cover on to me. I can hear another (more dieselish) note under the whine-but my PC is hooked up to an entry level audiophile system. I doubt you'd hear the sound on normal PC speakers.
Try listening with a high quality pair of headphones and you'll hear it.
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I thought supercharger too!
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25 February 2015, 18:49
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Country: UK - England
Town: Reading
Boat name: many
Make: BWM
Engine: inboard and outboard
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Yes Biff it is a diesel (I can show you it if you like) and it runs at 4800 rpm...
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25 February 2015, 19:05
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Country: UK - England
Town: swanwick/hamble
Boat name: stormchaser
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I'll be interested to see that. I'll be up your way in a few weeks time. I'll drop in
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25 February 2015, 19:19
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Country: UK - England
Town: The wilds of Wiltshire
Boat name: Dominator
Make: SR5.4
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You're on drugs Matt
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Penicillin doesn't count And I know I'm right.
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25 February 2015, 21:48
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Country: UK - England
Town: Margate / Ramsgate
Boat name: Bumbl
Make: Scorpion
Length: 8m +
Engine: Yanmar diesel
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Possibly the most interesting ribnet thread for some time.
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25 February 2015, 21:54
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Possibly the most interesting ribnet thread for some time.
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Got to agree with you, it's quite exciting really!
If it's successful I can see this type of engine in all manner of small craft.
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26 February 2015, 17:31
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Country: UK - England
Town: Widnes
Boat name: FROG
Make: Zodiac
Length: 3m +
Engine: Outboard 6hp
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The frib?
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26 February 2015, 22:45
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Country: UK - England
Town: New Milton
Boat name: Jianna
Make: Osprey
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Possibly the most interesting ribnet thread for some time.
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+1
Love to know more of the story behind this, and more about the engine itself.
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26 February 2015, 23:49
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Town: north ayrshire
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Love to know more of the story behind this, and more about the engine itself.
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Yep loads more questions to ask but it seems were only being given enough info to keep us interested
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27 February 2015, 08:21
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Quote:
Originally Posted by beamishken
Yep loads more questions to ask but it seems were only being given enough info to keep us interested
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Yep Weslake's take on it might be interesting
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27 February 2015, 09:05
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Member
Country: UK - Scotland
Town: north ayrshire
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Quote:
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Yep Weslake's take on it might be interesting
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Totaly agree I'm surprised at the lack of detailed info from bwm on this thread.
Seeing as andy was given an open floor by the mods to tell everyone about the venture it's realy being a case of prising info out of him.
I'd have thought any manufacturer would have jumped at the opportunity to promote his product which has clearly grabbed a lot of attention
Maybe someone should point Weslake in the direction of the thread
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