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01 April 2004, 20:38
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Country: UK - England
Town: Looe
Make: Delta
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Also forgot to say its not just the MoD that use them, i think all the new MCA (CoastGuard) diesel ribs have Yanmars. And some of the Sunseakers and Princess, this list could go on!!
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01 April 2004, 20:58
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Member
Country: UK - Scotland
Town: Isle of Skye
Boat name: Seafari - VHF CH 71
Make: Humbers+Catamaran
Length: 6m +
Engine: Volvo/Iveco/Suzuki
Join Date: Feb 2002
Posts: 199
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And some of the Sunseakers and Princess, this list could go on!!
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Are these not the same guys that are now taking them out and replacing them with something else.
Your views are valid, and in their place -- BUT -- how do you take into account that there are allot of these in the scrappies stock?
-- If i had put one of these in my boat in my first year of business, then i would be out of business now -- the reliability is NOT there, and that is that -- any dealer that says this set up is good for COMMERCIAL use is a liar -- full stop.
Using now and again -- fine. -- would you put your reputaion on the line and say " yes no problems with these 10K + hours - no bother"
pete
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02 April 2004, 09:32
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Country: UK - Wales
Town: Barmouth
Boat name: Blue Marlin
Make: Ribcraft
Length: 7m +
Engine: Yanmar 315/Bravo 2X
MMSI: 235020218
Join Date: Jun 2003
Posts: 827
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Yanmars
I'm finding all this slightly concerning - especially as I've ordered a Ribcraft with a Yanmar.
If the cracking is to do with the mounting of the engines, which can be cured by modifying the mounting, then why aren't Yanmar shipping the engines with the mountings? The start of this thread talked about a specific manufacturer (Sealine?) - if the mounting can effect the engine so much, then maybe they were mounting them wrong?
ALSO - if the engines are FUBAR, how are they selling them cheap? Or is it the leg thing again?
The longevity of the legs seems to be a recurring theme - but is there a viable alternative to non- Bravo legs out there? What choice is there if you don't want a volvo?
It's interesting that all MoD RIBs seem to be Yanmar users - although if they service the RIBs anything like as often as their vehicles, they would never get to 50 hours before an oil change anyway!! Likely to be significant - at least for the legs.
Dylan...
P.S. What is a 'shower' and how do you fit it/them?
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02 April 2004, 10:57
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Country: UK - Scotland
Make: HumberOceanOffshore
Length: 8m +
Engine: Volvo KAD300/DPX
Join Date: Oct 2002
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Re: Yanmars
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Originally posted by DGR
It's interesting that all MoD RIBs seem to be Yanmar users ......
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The fact that the MOD use them is no recommendation, seriously. They are known to make bad buying decisions. It cost us all a fortune but it's generally not publicised, for obvious reasons.
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02 April 2004, 11:09
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Country: UK - England
Town: Looe
Make: Delta
Length: 4m +
Engine: Mercury
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Well your obviously a Volvo man!! do you work for them!!!.
As far as engines coming back to Barrus, they did come back but only for a service, the engines were then sent back to go back in the boats!. Not sure about the mount the mount thing, i work on outboards 90% of the time, but again i will try to find out more.
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02 April 2004, 11:36
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Country: UK - England
Town: Devon
Boat name: White Ice
Make: Ranieri
Length: 5m +
Engine: Suzuki 115hp
Join Date: Jul 2002
Posts: 5,015
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Originally posted by Turbodiesel
I work on outboards 90% of the time...
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So why do you call yourself "Turbodiesel"
It sounds a little misleading, if you don't mind me saying so!
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02 April 2004, 12:34
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Country: UK - England
Town: Looe
Make: Delta
Length: 4m +
Engine: Mercury
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Because thats the name of my Dog!!! (well he's called Diesel not Turbo Diesel)
Yes there was a problem with the 6LY engines and feet breaking, and yes it did cause the blocks to crack!.
But that was quite a few years ago, and it was a big problem when the engines were put into Ribs as they usually get more of a hammering than the big Gin palaces.
The problem was fixed a few years ago by bracing the front feet, and i think the blocks have been strenghened too.
Hope this helps.
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02 April 2004, 12:40
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Country: UK - England
Town: Devon
Boat name: White Ice
Make: Ranieri
Length: 5m +
Engine: Suzuki 115hp
Join Date: Jul 2002
Posts: 5,015
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Originally posted by Turbodiesel
Because thats the name of my Dog!!!
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Whatever next - a car called Rover?
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02 April 2004, 14:03
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Country: UK - Scotland
Make: HumberOceanOffshore
Length: 8m +
Engine: Volvo KAD300/DPX
Join Date: Oct 2002
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Originally posted by Turbodiesel
Well your obviously a Volvo man!! do you work for them!!!.
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No I'm not and no I don't.
Just a very considered choice. Especially after speaking to Barrus reps. Forked tongues.
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02 April 2004, 14:21
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Country: UK - England
Town: Looe
Make: Delta
Length: 4m +
Engine: Mercury
Join Date: Apr 2004
Posts: 1,409
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i see, glad im not a sales rep then!
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02 April 2004, 19:43
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Country: UK - England
Town: Hamble
Length: 9m +
Join Date: Dec 2002
Posts: 2,317
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Originally posted by Turbodiesel
The problem was fixed a few years ago by bracing the front feet, and i think the blocks have been strenghened too.
Hope this helps.
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Ooh, you little liar!!!!
There has to my knowledge been 3 versions of engine brace, the first was Dave Crawfords own design, the other two by Yanmar. Despite all this the blocks still break, and that is fact!
As for the blocks being strengthened, now think about this for a moment. It's a Toyota block out of a landcruiser, now why would Toyota strengthen it?
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