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04 October 2006, 16:59
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Country: UK - England
Town: dartmouth, devon
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Length: 5m +
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contaminated fuel?
hi all
just a quick plee for help.
I am having some issues with getting the engine to run properly.
the only way it will start is with full throttle and choke, then, when i take off the choke and slowly reduce the revs it just coughs then stalls.
ive cleaned the plugs and made sure there is no contaminated fuel in the tank. i get the feeling its got something to do with the carbs.
but i dont have the guts to dismantle it because i have no means of getting it out of the water and i wouldent want the bits to sink to the bottom of the river (which would invitably happen)
engine: yamaha 80aeto autolube 2-stroke c.1995
all suggestions appriciated
thanks
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04 October 2006, 17:06
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Member
Country: UK - Scotland
Town: Inverkip
Boat name: Crusader
Make: Redbay 8.4 Exped
Length: 8m +
Engine: yamaha sterndrive
Join Date: Nov 2004
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what kind of tank/s are you using?
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04 October 2006, 19:43
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Town: Côte d'Azur
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Make: Avon Searider SR4
Length: 4m +
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Sounds like the idle jets in the carbs.
Taking them off and cleaning them out is an easy job, although I woulnt fancy doing it with the boat in the water....
Do you have a fuel filter/serperator fitted? If no then it might be worth putting in to stop it happening again.
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04 October 2006, 21:40
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Country: UK - England
Town: Boat Lake Geneva
Boat name: Lark
Make: Capelli Cap 32 WA
Length: 10m +
Engine: Yamaha 250x2
MMSI: 235096621
Join Date: Feb 2006
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i wonder if its sucking air though a lose hose clip or perished bulb?? Its worth checking to see if your fuel line is all tight before taking carbs apart etc.
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04 October 2006, 22:19
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Country: UK - England
Town: Southampton
Boat name: SMH Rib / War Shot
Make: Ribtec / Scorpion
Length: 4m +
Engine: 100hp Yam/150hp opt
Join Date: Sep 2003
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Timing advance
Had a similar problem with a 90hp Mariner 3cyl carb engine.
Turned out to be the timing advance mechanism - worked on the throttle linkage and should have returned under spring tension. Springs corroded. If the mech was reset the engine would start and as long as you only increased the throttle setting it would run OK. As soon as you tried to slow down it would run rough and stop.
Sorted springs and all well.
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13 October 2006, 16:55
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Country: UK - England
Town: dartmouth, devon
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thanks for replies.
craig, im am using 2 of the external barrus mod type tanks.
someone did mention something about the jets to me,they said just dismantle the carbs and blow out the jets. going to try that this weekend.
oh and no fuel separator apart from the small primary one under the cowl
but it looks pretty clean.
cheers
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15 October 2006, 08:38
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Country: UK - England
Town: Derbyshire
Boat name: Neb nagoh
Make: Rimini
Length: 5m +
Engine: 90hp Yam AETO
Join Date: Jun 2006
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Quote:
Originally Posted by richardjawilson
i wonder if its sucking air though a lose hose clip or perished bulb?? Its worth checking to see if your fuel line is all tight before taking carbs apart etc.
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I have just had this with a 90's Suz DT 65, I pressed hard on the fuel bulb and smelt petrol. I traced it to the fuel filter which had a hairline crack.
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27 October 2006, 15:47
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Member
Country: UK - Channel Islands
Town: A large rock
Boat name: La Frette
Make: Osprey Vipermax
Length: 6m +
Engine: 200 Suzzy
Join Date: May 2004
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I had something similar t this once on a Honda 50. It turned out to be the choke sticking on. The little solenoid actuator arm for the choke had slipped on its clip forcing it permanently on. May be worth a look.
Keith
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27 October 2006, 23:48
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Member
Country: UK - England
Town: dartmouth, devon
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no,i dont think its that.
the engine seems "addicted" to choke, because when take it off, it stalls.
also is it normal to have one of the carb drain ports sealed off?
because on mine the bottom and the top ones are fine but the middle port appears to have been sealed off with some kind of plastic.
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28 October 2006, 07:43
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RIBnet admin team
Country: UK - England
Town: The wilds of Wiltshire
Boat name: Dominator
Make: SR5.4
Length: 7m +
Engine: Yam 85
MMSI: 235055163
Join Date: Jul 2005
Posts: 13,069
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Blocked jets,bad timing, dodgy fuel pump or a serious air leak. If it's an air leak that badly you'll hear it when the cowl is off.
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