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28 July 2011, 17:54
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Member
Country: UK - England
Town: plymouth
Make: Ribtec
Length: 6m +
Engine: Mercury 200 verado
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coughing and spluttering optimax
I have just tried to take my boat out today for a run; waiting for a service though did about 10 since my last one!
Anyway, changed the fuel filter on the engine myself and retightened hand tight and have fitted a new water separator as paranoid about water in fuel!
Anyway, started fine, ticked over fine and was ok around 5/10kts.
When we took it out and opened it up, it goes fine for a short while then coughs, spluts and misses like its starved of fuel..when you back off the throttle and throttle back up it goes fine then cough splutter. The separator is full and there is fuel in the bulb but I m reluctant to take it too far as I dont fancy rowing!
Any ideas?
Thanks
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28 July 2011, 20:00
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Member
Country: UK - England
Town: South Yorks
Boat name: Black Pig
Make: Ribcraft
Length: 5m +
Engine: DF140a
MMSI: 235111389
Join Date: Feb 2008
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You could ask Martini
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28 July 2011, 20:23
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Member
Country: UK - Channel Islands
Town: jersey
Boat name: Martini II
Make: Arctic 28/FC470
Length: 8m +
Engine: twin 225Opti/50hp 2t
MMSI: 235067688
Join Date: Jun 2005
Posts: 3,030
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Originally Posted by Pikey Dave
You could ask Martini
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I know of some great Mercury techs in Paris, do you want their number?
As you say it does sound like a restriction in the fuel delivery but I can't see a reason why changing filters would cause it. Have you definitely used the right parts? Kinked a hose somewhere whilst doing the work? Can you hear the fuel pumps kick in when you turn the ignition on? And they run for around 3 secs then go off?
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28 July 2011, 21:04
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Member
Country: UK - England
Town: Warwickshire
Boat name: True Blue
Make: Humber ocean pro 6.3
Length: 6m +
Engine: Mercury 150 opti
Join Date: Oct 2005
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could be worth checking the seals on the new filters
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28 July 2011, 21:27
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Member
Country: UK - England
Town: plymouth
Make: Ribtec
Length: 6m +
Engine: Mercury 200 verado
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Posts: 412
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I have checked the filter and there is no leak there...The pump runs when you turn the ignition on as well.
How about spark plugs? They were changed last year when it was serviced and its probably done 20 hrs since then at most...Is that a possibility?
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28 July 2011, 21:57
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Member
Country: UK - England
Town: Gloucestershire
Boat name: Osprey
Make: Osprey Vipermax
Length: 5m +
Engine: E-tec 300 G2
MMSI: TBC
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I would run a jerry can to the engine bypassing all the filters. If it runs then you will need to work your way back from there to identify the restriction or leak.
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29 July 2011, 00:42
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Country: UK - Wales
Town: N Wales Chester
Boat name: Mr Smith
Make: Humber
Length: 6m +
Join Date: Feb 2009
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Sounds stupid, but check the loom as it enters the engine. Ours after only 2 years had worn through where it enters the engine and turns/twists/creases. Basically when we opened up the throttle, then trimmed out, it creased and shorted a wire where it was worn.
Worth checking.
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29 July 2011, 07:58
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Member
Country: UK - England
Town: Southampton
Boat name: Hissing Sid
Make: Ross Smith Cobra
Length: 6m +
Engine: 200HP Optimax
MMSI: 235038046
Join Date: Jun 2002
Posts: 3,804
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Originally Posted by Miller
The pump runs when you turn the ignition on as well.
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Remember there are 2 electric pumps, high and low pressure.
Is this anything like your symptoms?
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29 July 2011, 12:02
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Member
Country: UK - England
Town: plymouth
Make: Ribtec
Length: 6m +
Engine: Mercury 200 verado
Join Date: Feb 2008
Posts: 412
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Jizm
Remember there are 2 electric pumps, high and low pressure.
Is this anything like your symptoms?
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hmm, not quite it goes for a lot longer at full throttle before it starts to struggle...
First thing i ll try is the external tank as it took me ages to get the ball primed in the first place.
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29 July 2011, 14:15
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Country: UK - England
Town: Southampton
Boat name: Hissing Sid
Make: Ross Smith Cobra
Length: 6m +
Engine: 200HP Optimax
MMSI: 235038046
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Indeed, they don't much like sucking up air....
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30 July 2011, 00:12
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Member
Country: UK - England
Town: plymouth
Make: Ribtec
Length: 6m +
Engine: Mercury 200 verado
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well, managed to get someone to service it on short notice..no doubt the laptop will tell em i ve got a lemon!!
Weds will tell, misiing some prime diving weather!aaargh!
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31 July 2011, 19:34
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Country: UK - England
Town: Looe
Make: Delta
Length: 4m +
Engine: Mercury
Join Date: Apr 2004
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You should have given us a call, 10% off for Ribnet members and we are just up the road from you!
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01 August 2011, 20:43
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Member
Country: UK - England
Town: plymouth
Make: Ribtec
Length: 6m +
Engine: Mercury 200 verado
Join Date: Feb 2008
Posts: 412
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Turbodiesel
You should have given us a call, 10% off for Ribnet members and we are just up the road from you!
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no worries, i ll give you a call next year for a service then...do you come up as far as Plymouth?
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04 August 2011, 19:46
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Country: UK - England
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Always in Plymouth. First job tomorrow is Plymouth, 2nd job is Penzance!
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04 August 2011, 19:47
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Country: UK - England
Town: Looe
Make: Delta
Length: 4m +
Engine: Mercury
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Did you get the problem fixed out of interest?
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04 August 2011, 21:11
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Member
Country: UK - England
Town: Southampton
Boat name: Hissing Sid
Make: Ross Smith Cobra
Length: 6m +
Engine: 200HP Optimax
MMSI: 235038046
Join Date: Jun 2002
Posts: 3,804
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Wondered the same????
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07 August 2011, 00:45
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Member
Country: UK - England
Town: plymouth
Make: Ribtec
Length: 6m +
Engine: Mercury 200 verado
Join Date: Feb 2008
Posts: 412
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well, they have given the engine a clean bill of health, changed a diaphram on the LP fuel pump just to be on the safe side.
He told me to change the primer bulb as wasnt too sure of that one... Computer said all ok so I shall take it out 2moro and see.
If not I have the phone at the ready for monday!
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07 August 2011, 20:20
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Country: UK - England
Town: Looe
Make: Delta
Length: 4m +
Engine: Mercury
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Miller
well, they have given the engine a clean bill of health, changed a diaphram on the LP fuel pump just to be on the safe side.
He told me to change the primer bulb as wasnt too sure of that one... Computer said all ok so I shall take it out 2moro and see.
If not I have the phone at the ready for monday!
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No worries!!
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08 August 2011, 20:17
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Member
Country: UK - England
Town: plymouth
Make: Ribtec
Length: 6m +
Engine: Mercury 200 verado
Join Date: Feb 2008
Posts: 412
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well, touch wood everything is working fine....still get a problem with the primer bulb not pumping fuel from the separator even though I have fitted a new one but the engine is not getting starved of fuel.
I have a fuel switchover valve so I can switch between the main and reserve tank and i m sure this isnt working properly...Can valves/seals go on these things?
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08 August 2011, 20:56
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Member
Country: UK - England
Town: Looe
Make: Delta
Length: 4m +
Engine: Mercury
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It really depends what type of change over switches you are using. Most of them are just a ball valve which dont usually wear.
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