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Old 23 November 2017, 23:00   #21
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Thanks for the advice guys. I might have a play with the Ford one in any case, to see how difficult the circuit bodge is.

Diver - have you had it out on the water at all, or run it on the muffs?
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Old 23 November 2017, 23:37   #22
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i found the post with piccy btw of the real vs cheap one-

https://www.thehulltruth.com/10667813-post143.html

unless you are trolling a lot i don't see a problem using the cheap one and keeping another spare, you can change them while on water if need be.

btw, have you tried cleaning it with some brake cleaner? that normally does the trick if you are not getting codes?

if you do replace it you may need to do the reset procedure for the iac to calibrate it.
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Old 25 November 2017, 10:28   #23
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Ran fine on muffs - I have not messed about making up a permanent wiring connection though as I found at this time the rough running was due to a faulty spark plug. I have kept the Ford IAC in its box as a spare.

Xk59D - two things - firstly your advice relates to a DF200 engine which has a totally different IAC as far as I am aware, and secondly I totally agree with your comment regarding cheap aftermarket parts, however the part I refer to it a genuine Ford part which I happened to find at a very good price although even at RRP from a Ford Dealership I'm sure will be considerably cheaper than the Suzuki Outboard Dealer RRP. The parts appear in every way identical even the weight is the same. It is a faff having to mess around with changing the electrical plug on wiring loom though.

I can't vouch for any cheap online copies of the genuine Ford part I suggested.
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I never meant to question your ford part. Sorry if it came accross that way.

The lac for the 140 is different correct.

The genuine Suzuki part is silly money no matter the engine though, worth a punt and keeping a spare imo
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Thanks guys, and i think you are right - worth a try. The Suzuki iac is around £250.
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im having trouble with my 2011 DF140 it wont start unless i use the warm up lever ive been told its the ( Idle control valve) ive been reading the thread with Interest the is a range of ford cars fitted with part no (9F715-AA) ive not stripped my engine yet but im thinking somewhere in the ford range will be the same plug fitting as the Suzuki could be on the ford Ka Focus or Galaxy suzuki are wanting £408 plus £8.6p for the gasket ford price on evilbay is less than £ 25 if i have to splash the cash on a gasket so be it tight lines Alain
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im having trouble with my 2011 DF140 it wont start unless i use the warm up lever ive been told its the ( Idle control valve) ive been reading the thread with Interest the is a range of ford cars fitted with part no (9F715-AA) ive not stripped my engine yet but im thinking somewhere in the ford range will be the same plug fitting as the Suzuki could be on the ford Ka Focus or Galaxy suzuki are wanting £408 plus £8.6p for the gasket ford price on evilbay is less than £ 25 if i have to splash the cash on a gasket so be it tight lines Alain
Afaik (and I’m willing to be corrected) you shouldn’t have a “warm up lever” on a DF140. All the choke & starting malarkey should be handled by the efi system. I have binnacle mounted throttle & there isn’t a warm up/choke lever.
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Afaik (and I’m willing to be corrected) you shouldn’t have a “warm up lever” on a DF140. All the choke & starting malarkey should be handled by the efi system. I have binnacle mounted throttle & there isn’t a warm up/choke lever.
the side mount controls have a "fast idle" lever, assuming thats what he means?
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im having trouble with my 2011 DF140 it wont start unless i use the warm up lever ive been told its the ( Idle control valve) ive been reading the thread with Interest the is a range of ford cars fitted with part no (9F715-AA) ive not stripped my engine yet but im thinking somewhere in the ford range will be the same plug fitting as the Suzuki could be on the ford Ka Focus or Galaxy suzuki are wanting £408 plus £8.6p for the gasket ford price on evilbay is less than £ 25 if i have to splash the cash on a gasket so be it tight lines Alain
Re the thread on my engine above, I bought a new (Suzuki) IAC, but it turned out the problem was not the IAC - it was the engine management system, and needed it's 'brains' re-flashing. Barry Windsor did the work for me. I am sure I still have the replacement IAC in the garage somewhere if you are interested. I have sold the boat so I have no use for it now.
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the side mount controls have a "fast idle" lever, assuming thats what he means?
What does it do? Does it just up the idle revs? If so I can’t see how that would affect starting, unless the TPS was out of kilter.
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BTW - as an aside, it seems Barry Windsor's company, Windsor Marine Services, has disappeared. Does anyone know what has happened to it? Barry was a great guy.
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engine runs on the muffs but not when its on a mooring as i think the water pressure kills the engine you have to use the fast idle ( warm up leaver ) on a fast tick over or the engine cuts out
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