Diagnostic tools

Solent-Salted · 05 August 2010, 13:54

Afternoon all,

Have been toying with the idea for a while.....

At the mo, when we get an issue, we have to drag the boat on round to the mechanic for him to plug in a little tester handheld and then go "It's yer throttle sensor".

Very time consuming and annoying.

Now, all I want is the hand held testing tool, it's on an iveco and is called a PT-01 or PT01.

Found one company that does um, but they haven't got back to me.

Any ideas where else I can get one from?

Chars.

jyasaki · 05 August 2010, 15:55

Yamaha does sell a PC based software analyzer package. As I recall, it's around $400 US; same thing the "certified mechanics" use.

I don't know if he sells/ships overseas, but this guy does stock the kit:
http://www.simyamaha.com/category_s/1732.htm

At least you can get the Yam part number from him, and find someone who can order it.

jky

outboardtech · 15 August 2010, 13:03

hi , what engine are you trying to plug into ??

Cookee · 16 August 2010, 09:00

While we have everyone's attention what is there for Yanmar's (BY260's)?

Erin · 16 August 2010, 12:52

Assuming Yanmars are based on the car/truck block then the ecu's should be the same so I'd suggest trawling the car forums for aftermarket pc diag software. On a similar vein, my Audi/VW car diag scanner from the US (vag-com) works on our hardboat's VW marine engine perfectly.

Cookee · 16 August 2010, 14:52

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Originally Posted by Erin

Assuming Yanmars are based on the car/truck block then the ecu's should be the same so I'd suggest trawling the car forums for aftermarket pc diag software. On a similar vein, my Audi/VW car diag scanner from the US (vag-com) works on our hardboat's VW marine engine perfectly.

It is a totally different turbo from the BMW road engine - I would imagine the mapping would be different for marine use as well, maybe the same building blocks though so we may see if we can plug into it.

free · 16 August 2010, 15:19

I can't find a lot of info on this, but the conclusion that I'm drawn towards is that they are using the same protocols as the auto industry, so any serial port scanner would do. This should give basic functionality such as fault codes, live data, actuator testing etc. From what I can see, outboard manufacturers are using their own plugs, so a bit of creative wiring would be involved, but nothing more than matching the correct pairs on a wiring diag. If anyone has a wiring diag for a modern outboard plug, I'll see if any of it makes sense and post back.

free

JABS · 16 August 2010, 15:23

There used to be a guy on eBay who sold outboard diagnostic software from the US.

Might be worth a look on eBay, in the US.

There was also someone who made up leads. I think he was in Canada.

Yes, I had a Ficht!

Look at: http://www.yamahaoutboardparts.com/f...er-th7326.html

Solent-Salted · 16 August 2010, 16:42

Sorry for the late reply.

It's an N40 250 Iveco Diesel inboard.

All I want is the basic tester that tells you the faults and gives you clear functionality.

Got the knowledge base to complete any engine repairs, it just seems that you can't do a bloody thing without a engine PDA anymore!

Erin · 16 August 2010, 20:02

I've no idea what protocol Iveco use in their systems, but obviously most are CANBus (aka J1939 I think) these days. I'd have thought it would be easy to get hold of a scanner that would pull codes out of the ECU. Correct me if I'm wrong, but isn't it all part of the Ford fold? That must be the most common scanner around!

Quote:

Originally Posted by Cookee

It is a totally different turbo from the BMW road engine - I would imagine the mapping would be different for marine use as well, maybe the same building blocks though so we may see if we can plug into it.

I don't think the mapping would matter (obviously it would if you wanted to 'chip' it but that's a different kettle of fish from diagnostics). The protocol the ECU uses would be pretty standard I'd have thought. They're not going to have developed a different format just for marine engines when the basic engine parameters and sensors are the same for all engines, road or marine.

Cookee · 17 August 2010, 09:00

Quote:

Originally Posted by Erin

I don't think the mapping would matter (obviously it would if you wanted to 'chip' it but that's a different kettle of fish from diagnostics). The protocol the ECU uses would be pretty standard I'd have thought. They're not going to have developed a different format just for marine engines when the basic engine parameters and sensors are the same for all engines, road or marine.

Makes sense to me!

Solent-Salted · 17 August 2010, 09:42

I believe now that Iveco have been bought by Fiat and are held under a new arm of them.... looks like a re-branding may be on the cards.....