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29 November 2011, 18:04
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Country: UK - Scotland
Town: Dunoon
Boat name: Celtic Wanderer
Make: Ribcraft
Length: 9m +
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Diesel Inboards - Improving Output ?
Hi
does anybody have information on upping the output on inboard diesels such as yanmar and volvo`s
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29 November 2011, 18:12
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Country: UK - England
Town: swanwick/hamble
Boat name: stormchaser
Make: custom rib
Length: 8m +
Engine: inboard/diesel
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How old is the engine you're thinking about. Bigger turbo. Remap ? If you haven't got an engine yet I'd suggest getting a bigger one rather than trying to squeeze more out of a smaller one
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30 November 2011, 06:56
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Country: UK - Scotland
Town: Dunoon
Boat name: Celtic Wanderer
Make: Ribcraft
Length: 9m +
Engine: Volvo D6, Honda
MMSI: 235087784
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thinking about a few different boats at the moment
all around 7/7.5m and want top performance from them
most seem to be fitted with either the yanmar/toyota unit with 240 hp or the kad series of volvo`s with slightly less hp and both engines seem to provide approx 40mph in this size of boat according to owners
i would like to have slightly more top speed i.e. 50 mph and be able to get onto plane quicker
i presume that if the torque produced was increased this would allow a larger prop and quicker plane?
what engines can have a remap or what engines would give me the performance without tuning
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30 November 2011, 08:49
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Country: UK - England
Town: New Forest
Boat name: Charlie Brown
Make: Scorpion
Length: 8m +
Engine: 275 Verado
MMSI: 235069179
Join Date: Oct 2004
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The Volvos in our Hunton have been tweaked from 350 to just shy of 400 a side. This was done by remapping but then of course you need to look at props and importantly cooling.
Would look first at reducing any excess weight on the boat as in light boats, weight is a killer and position of weight.
Props are a dark art and can start to cost lots of money if you are just playing. its worth talking to a prop expert for their suggestions.
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30 November 2011, 09:05
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Country: UK - England
Town: swanwick/hamble
Boat name: stormchaser
Make: custom rib
Length: 8m +
Engine: inboard/diesel
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I would say look for a better hulled boat. I've got a yam 240 hp in my 8.3 cabin rib and that does 43 knts. The yam is a better package ( IMO ). Lighter. Simpler
I did a 7.5 with a yam when I worked at ribtec and that did 46 knts. I had a old Avon searider 7.4 with a yam and we clocked that at 55 mph. The yam did a 275 hp from the same block and head as the 240. As said cooling was beefed up
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30 November 2011, 09:24
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Country: UK - Channel Islands
Town: A large rock
Boat name: La Frette
Make: Osprey Vipermax
Length: 6m +
Engine: 200 Suzzy
Join Date: May 2004
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Originally Posted by AMac
seem to provide approx 40mph in this size of boat according to owners
i would like to have slightly more top speed i.e. 50 mph
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I think that's a bit more than slightly. 25% is a significant jump in speed, especially in a boat which may require more than a 25% power increase to achieve it.
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30 November 2011, 10:07
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Country: Ireland
Length: 4m +
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That extra 10mph could take 80-100hp extra to achieve with an offshore hull. Any extra power will require a suitably rated drive leg. 25% is a HUGE increase in speed!
Biffer is right. Get a bigger engine and/or lose some weight on the boat. Removing all the crap and polishing the hull can get you an extra 3 mph or so...
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30 November 2011, 16:26
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Country: UK - Scotland
Town: Stornoway
Make: Scorpion 8.1 mk2
Length: 8m +
Engine: Yamaha F300
Join Date: Aug 2006
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If its a newer Electronic diesels like the Volvo kad series or 'D' series, or any of the newer BMW based Yanmars this company Diesel Tuning by Tunit Diesel Performance With Over 2900 Applications sells tuning boxes that simply plug in to gain around 35hp. But as mentioned above you'll probably only see a knot or 2 for your extra 35hp!
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07 December 2011, 11:29
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Country: Belgium
Town: Ghent Belgium
Boat name: Quickflash
Make: Scorpion 9,75 m
Length: 9m +
Engine: Volvo D6 370Hp
MMSI: 20519774700
Join Date: Sep 2007
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Robbie,
Do you know if such a tuning set actually works on a boat? I looked at their website and although they do make them for Volvo's ( in my case a D6 370), I cant read any reviews which mention marine applications.
Thanks
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07 December 2011, 13:20
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Member
Country: UK - England
Town: Salcombe, Devon, UK
Boat name: BananaShark
Make: BananaShark
Length: 10m +
Engine: 2xYanmar 260 diesels
Join Date: Mar 2003
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Those tuning boxes have a mixed review - some work and others don't, to do it properly for decent benefits you need to have the engine "Chipped" - we are looking into working with a local company to do this but we would need the boat!
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When a boat looks that good who needs tubes!!!
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07 December 2011, 16:24
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Country: UK - Scotland
Make: HumberOceanOffshore
Length: 8m +
Engine: Volvo KAD300/DPX
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08 December 2011, 12:18
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Member
Country: Belgium
Town: Ghent Belgium
Boat name: Quickflash
Make: Scorpion 9,75 m
Length: 9m +
Engine: Volvo D6 370Hp
MMSI: 20519774700
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Interesting thread, thanks,
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11 December 2011, 13:44
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Member
Country: UK - Scotland
Town: Dunoon
Boat name: Celtic Wanderer
Make: Ribcraft
Length: 9m +
Engine: Volvo D6, Honda
MMSI: 235087784
Join Date: Nov 2011
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What about fitting large intercoolers and remaping the fuel as this works well on vehicles?
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11 December 2011, 16:20
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RIBnet supporter
Country: UK - England
Town: Lymington Hampshire
Boat name: Hot Lemon
Make: Scorpion
Length: 8m +
Engine: Yanmar diesel
MMSI: 235
Join Date: May 2002
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kad44
We have a Humber 8.5 offshore with Volvo kad 44 and top speed is 36kn but she does weigh 3 tons!
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