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03 March 2007, 20:14
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Originally Posted by Dirk Diggler
You do talk a load of sh*te at times.
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Of course you believe everything you read - bit like Tony Blair on the WMD reports from Iraq......
Why hasn't it hurt Ford's or VWs then???
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03 March 2007, 20:31
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03 March 2007, 20:59
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codprawn you do talk out your ass. The government could barely organise a pick nick.
Silicone is known to damage zirconium HEGO sensors. They probably transported the petrol in a diesel tank without washing it properly (i'm pretty sure silicone is used in diesel as an anti-foaming agent) or something along those lines.
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03 March 2007, 21:14
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The news report I saw said that silicone damaged heated oxygen sensors and also said that it is, as you say, the anti foaming agent in diesel. Can't immediately understand what the reaction is that causes damage though.
Go and buy an old carbed V8 Land Rover - there should be lots of cheap petrol around and by burning it (thereby saving burning other fuel) rather than dumping it you are being environmentally friendly 
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03 March 2007, 21:40
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But why didn't it cause problems for VW or Ford cars? Surely they use HEGO sensorsl? SiO2 would cause problems for them as well.
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03 March 2007, 22:13
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It could be any number of reasons cod. Maybe Bosch sensors are more prone to damage than Denso or Fords Motorcraft sensors for example.
If you actually read or listened to the news stories you'd know that there have been suspected cases with most car manufactures, its just affecting specific manufactures more.
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03 March 2007, 22:53
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Just heard on the radio they've traced the source of the contamination to 4 storage tanks in Essex.
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I hope Del boy and Rodney havn't gone up market, and wern't trying a fast one with that Micky Rooney and a dodgy petrol shipment ?
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03 March 2007, 23:04
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Not sure if it's related but one of the bike forums was reporting a significantly higher than average amount of 2-stroke seizures.
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03 March 2007, 23:33
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I think the silicone thing is a load of bollocks
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I agree.
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http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/6416385.stm
humble pie anyone?
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04 March 2007, 00:22
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Originally Posted by the bandit
My info its the silicone in the fuel thats doing in the sensors in the exhaust systems on modern cars. So if your driving a old banger without cats these should be some bloody cheap petrol about.
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Due to a over abuse of alchole last night and this evening me memory disappeared. the sensors in question are called lambda's. Me mate runs a garage and they have been changing these for a few weeks now. unfortunatly one of the cocky mechanics who is even cocker now said 2 weeks ago it was silicone that was doing the damage. ( bloody good guess i suspect ) You cannot clean them, it has been tried only replacements.
But as i say i know nothing.
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04 March 2007, 00:50
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Me No !
Maybe we should be asking why they put petrol in Diesel tanks. It obviously isn't a sensible idea.
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04 March 2007, 08:26
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Of course you believe everything you read
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If that was true I'd think you're a genius, but in reality I think your a F***wit.
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04 March 2007, 10:38
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Welcome to the club Dirk.
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04 March 2007, 13:28
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Welcome to the club Dirk.
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What club is that - the obnoxious old gits one? When I have a difference of opinion with someone I do NOT resort to personal abuse - it's just not very gentlemanly.
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04 March 2007, 13:32
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Originally Posted by BogMonster
Even more unbelievably they are saying that the price of fuel is going to go up to cover the costs....
How can they get away with that? - is there no such thing as liability in this world!
"Whoops we f***ed up so now you are going to have to pay extra as well as getting your car fixed...."
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The price is going up because they are having to dump a load of fuel and re-supply quickly. This will have some effect on the short-term market. The oil & petrol commodity traders will take advantage and push the market price up. So not the retailers or even distributors (although of course they may still take a slice!).
What happens to the contaminated fuel? Presume it must have some use to someone?
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04 March 2007, 13:34
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Behave, children.
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04 March 2007, 13:35
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Biggles
Me No !
Maybe we should be asking why they put petrol in Diesel tanks. It obviously isn't a sensible idea.
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Make you mind up Biggles! One minute you're agreeing with Codprawn that the contamination story was a "whitewash" and that it was obviously a problem with the ethanol addative. Now you decide that it's "obviously" contamination from the diesel tank!
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04 March 2007, 13:42
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What happens to the contaminated fuel? Presume it must have some use to someone?
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I could happily find a use for it... my lawnmower!
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04 March 2007, 13:50
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What club is that - the obnoxious old gits one? -..... I do NOT resort to personal abuse
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apparently not ??????????????
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04 March 2007, 13:58
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apparently not ??????????????
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