e-tec with reduced power

[Chris]

Originally Posted by SteveHall

Cheers Chris, I am happy if its just batteries and a ignition switch - I am hoping its this anyway.

The fact that turning it over gives a drop to 8V for the batteries - I think they are shot.

I will order up a new key switch as well - gulp!

Hi Steve,

8 Volts !!! I am surprised the engine even starts. The fuel injection system normally wont kick in at anything less than 11v...

Definitely sort out your batteries, and check you wiring this may well resolve the issue.

Chris

[Chris]

[QUOTE=SteveHall;604917]I will order up a new key switch as well - gulp [QUOTE]

Johnson Evinrude Ignition Key Switch & Lanyard 175974 | eBay

[SteveHall]

I am sure my key switch hasn't got plugs on the end - it has tails that goes to a larger harness plug?

don't like the look of "International items may be subject to customs processing and additional charges"

Don't we have a good UK/EU distributor who stocks parts and wont charge the earth?

[jyasaki]

Originally Posted by SteveHall

The fact that turning it over gives a drop to 8V for the batteries - I think they are shot.

Measured where? If you have a meter connected at the batteries, then yes, it's likely them. If your meter is closer to the starter, you need to determine if the you're losing voltage at the batteries, or if it's your wiring that is dropping part of it (i.e. you still have 11-12V at the batteries while cranking, but resistance in line eats up a few volts before it gets to the starter - more pronounced when pulling current, mainly while starting.)

jky

[SteveHall]

This was measured on my HDS - so not the most accurate.

In my original post about starting problems I measured the voltage at the battery with a mm and got a drop to 10V-11V by sending a position request with DSC - so yes my batteries weren't the healthiest

[Chris]

Originally Posted by SteveHall

I am sure my key switch hasn't got plugs on the end - it has tails that goes to a larger harness plug?

don't like the look of "International items may be subject to customs processing and additional charges"

Don't we have a good UK/EU distributor who stocks parts and wont charge the earth?

Try Mike Vincent at Southcoast Marine...

[SteveHall]

Ok so 12 hours on since I started to seriously look into this issue and put an end to my problems I am a little further forward but think I need an unlimited credit card.... Today I have ordered two Numax XV24MF batteries, and looking at options for a new ignition switch and battery switch. New batteries should arrive tomorrow, but not sure about other items as short on money until payday. On Friday I am going to get the boat back out and fit the new batteries and run it back up on the tank and connect ev diag to check voltages. I just hope new batteries fix it, and as a last resort battery and ignition switch. If it's the EMM or flywheel and or stator I'm screwed

[Aries]

http://www.etecownersgroup.com/post/...stator-6699529

Sounds familiar?

The new flywheel has the magnets sunk in between ribs on the inside of the flywheel.

[Chris]

Originally Posted by Aries

2008 175 horse, suspect bad flywheel/stator - Owners Message Board

Sounds familiar?

The new flywheel has the magnets sunk in between ribs on the inside of the flywheel.

I was trying to keep his spirits up..... now you've blown it

[Aries]

Too late I ruined his evening by pm ing the cost of a new flywheel last night.

[SteveHall]

Cheers guys - I just need to work out what's wrong with it I guess... Then start toping myself...

[Chris]

Fingers crossed for you Steve....

[SteveHall]

Looks like the batteries I ordered aren't Numax - bugger!

Ive some how ordered XV24MF Powerline Leisure Battery 12V 88Ah - Leisure Batteries - Powerline Leisure Batteries
and not Numax CXV24MF Sealed Leisure Battery 12V 86Ah 1000MCA 500 Cycles XV24MF - Leisure Batteries - Numax Leisure Batteries

Thought they were cheap...

Now for the ignition switch - knowing my luck I will get one from a Volvo...

[Chris]

Originally Posted by SteveHall

Looks like the batteries I ordered aren't Numax - bugger!

Ive some how ordered XV24MF Powerline Leisure Battery 12V 88Ah - Leisure Batteries - Powerline Leisure Batteries
and not Numax CXV24MF Sealed Leisure Battery 12V 86Ah 1000MCA 500 Cycles XV24MF - Leisure Batteries - Numax Leisure Batteries

Thought they were cheap...

Now for the ignition switch - knowing my luck I will get one from a Volvo...

Steve I really don't want to ruin another evening for you but Evinrude specify that the starter battery is rated at a minimum of 675 CCA (Cold Cranking Amps) if in use below zero degrees this should be increased to 750 CCA.

The batteries you have ordered are rated at 570CCA so are below the recommended minimum. Whilst the engine will probably start they are by no means ideal and you may experience issues when the temperature drops.

Its a bit misleading as the part number is very similar to the Numax versions which are 900CCA.

Numax CXV24MF Sealed Leisure Battery 12V 86Ah 1000MCA 500 Cycles XV24MF - Leisure Batteries - Numax Leisure Batteries

[SteveHall]

I'm confused. They tell me the power lines ones I have ordered in the link above are the same as the Numax ones I've linked so 900CCA

[Chris]

Originally Posted by SteveHall

I'm confused. They tell me the power lines ones I have ordered in the link above are the same as the Numax ones I've linked so 900CCA

I googled the model number and found a number of them listed. They also seem to go under the brand AlphaLine...

Alphaline XV24MF 12v 88ah Leisure / Caravan / Marine Battery | eBay

I may be wrong (I hope so) I would ask them to confirm in writing that the CCA is the same as the Numax. Its a bit odd they don't have it on the website (they do with the Numax)

[SteveHall]

This is what I asked, for them to confirm in writing that it's the same. I got an email back saying yes all the same - but the battery hasn't got any numbers on it...

[Chris]

Up to you Steve but personally I think they are talking (writing) shite.

[SteveHall]

I don't know what to do, going to see what the cost is / returns procedure.

How can I test a battery CCA?

[Chris]

Not sure its something you can easily test Steve.

I would just go back to them and tell them you saw the CCA was 575 on another website and that you want them to take the batteries back unless they can send you manufacturer specs confirming that they are the same as the Numax.