Engine comparisons

[navigate_us]

I am narrowing on the size of rib for my use and now starting to look at where the money is - the engine!

Many users of this forum must have been through the same process of comparing engines. I am looking 90-115hp. I searched the forum and can't find reference to simple spread sheet giving manufacturer/output/weight/claimed consumption/ et cetra

Do I need to look further or should I start doing my own? Any help welcomed.

[Leapy]

I can tell you usage data on the new Suzuki DF90 but nothing else.

I'm not aware of a comparison chart

[codprawn]

Fuel consumption will be pretty much the same no matter what - if you are using say 75hp that is the fuel you will be using.

You will just have to look at the different websites - they have all the spec there. Personally I prefer 2 strokes - an Etec or an Optimax. Weight is the most important factor - all the modern engines are pretty good!!!

[navigate_us]

I have tried a start at the comparison of engines between 90-115hp. Suggestion for other important fields welcome and I will try to add them.

Please find attached

regards

Kieran

[Leapy]

Originally Posted by navigate_us

Suggestion for other important fields welcome and I will try to add them

Presumably, you're going to put Suzuki on there?

There may well be folks on here with fuel consumption opinion but you will need to be cautious with it. I suspect, like car fuel consumption, it will be notoriously optimistic or pessimisstic.

How about price?

There are some other factors that you might want to consider, but they're things you can't easily measure with numbers:

2 stroke v 4 stroke - very emotive on here.
Noise quality as opposed to quantity.
Proximity of service, support and parts.
Reputation
Cowl colour - does it 'work' with my boat

[navigate_us]

Just added Suzuki DF90 and 115, can't seem to get prices on the web, they all ask for you to call. Any suggestions for a good source of price data. p.s. I have some RRP prices for Honda and Suzuki.

How about service costs? it it a major factor, i.e. big differences

[Leapy]

Originally Posted by navigate_us

How about service costs? it it a major factor, i.e. big differences

Depends where you take it...we take our boat/engine back to the boat manufacturer on the basis that whatever is wrong/goes wrong only comes back to the one company. Avoids all that tedious finger pointing and they give excellent service, although they're probably not cheap by comparison with others.

Bit of a mine field unless you ensure commonality...I suspect the only vallid comparison is if you quote the manufacturers agent costs.

[PeterM]

I'd look for distance to dealer.......just in case......

[nan-ber]

navigate us. not good on t typing so ill make it brief. have had a lot of o b. in 2 days market get a 4 st. all modern 2 st technology is 2 complicated. i live in a small area and have met all t new 2st s and there owners, except tohatsu, and they all had trouble. optimax - air injectors, e-tec blowing up and grief, hpdi- high pressure fuel pump failure. i ve had 2 yams 100 both super motors very very reliable. now own a suzi 140 again a super motor.non of these have ever let me down and once you keep them in clean fuel you ll never look back. if you need any more info come back 2 me.

[Locozodiac]

Other nice option : Tohatsu 90 & 115

2 Strokes: If available
http://www.tohatsu.co.jp/en/boat/products/m90sp.html 3 cylinder - 135 Kg
http://www.tohatsu.co.jp/en/boat/products/m115sp.html 4 cylinder - 164 Kg

TLDI :
http://www.tohatsu.co.jp/en/boat/products/md90sp.html 3 cylinder -143 Kg
http://www.tohatsu.co.jp/en/boat/products/md115sp.html 4 cylinder -178 Kg

For a 5 + Rib any 90 will be perfect.

Happy Ribbing

[Chris]

If you are looking at a 115 then the e-tec is a superb choice, the V4 115 is one of the best engines in the range.

The 90 e-tec I have to admit is not for me it is not the strongest 90 out there.

[navigate_us]

OK I have now added the other engines. I found one review on line for the Suzuki 90- see link

It would be good if we could get the users on this forum to vote or comments on their favs and add service experience, et cetra

I plan on keeping my boat on the UK south coast and atlantic coast -france- in the summer and most brands are well covered in these regions, especially Suzuki.

Comments/correction/additions welcome

thanks

Kieran

[navigate_us]

Can user try this and I will put the results on the forum.

Its a simple 6 question survey on 90-115 outboards

http://FreeOnlineSurveys.com/renders...5m6675nw645944

regards

Kieran

[Locozodiac]

Kieran,

Tohatsu TLDI are 2 strokes, low pressure direct fuel inyection, not 4 strokes, correct data.

[navigate_us]

Please find the latest update on the spec comparison for 90-115hp and the online survey (sadly only 20 replies- thanks for those, but not really representative)

I think I have decided on a 90hp Suzuki 4 stroke DF90 on a Zodiac Pro open 550. Although, I think I will hold off until the spring as I can't put it under cover.

thanks

Kieran

[navigate_us]

Locozodiac - Tohatsu engines corrected, thanks Kieran