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05 December 2010, 18:09
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Make: Vipermax 5.8, SR4.7
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Originally Posted by gotchiguy
Or in this modern world where we're all being encouraged to be as efficient as possible, to plumb for an etec is the surely the thinking man's choice - no compromise whatsoever on power, lightweight for greater thrills, but also economical and efficient to keep the greenies happy
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It's difficult to take a 'Green' stance when you run a power boat for leisure purposes, which empties its oil into the sea.
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05 December 2010, 18:13
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Country: UK - England
Town: Dinard, Brittany
Boat name: Into the Red
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Length: 7m +
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Originally Posted by Downhilldai
It's difficult to take a 'Green' stance when you run a power boat for leisure purposes, which empties its oil into the sea.
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Ahhhh.. you forget... I don't
(you do though )
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05 December 2010, 18:17
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Member
Country: UK - Channel Islands
Town: jersey
Boat name: Martini II
Make: Arctic 28/FC470
Length: 8m +
Engine: twin 225Opti/50hp 2t
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Originally Posted by gotchiguy
Ahhhh.. you forget... I don't
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So what happens to all the 2 stroke oil your engine uses then?!
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05 December 2010, 18:18
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Member
Country: UK - Wales
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Make: Vipermax 5.8, SR4.7
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Quote:
Originally Posted by gotchiguy
Ahhhh.. you forget... I don't
(you do though )
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05 December 2010, 18:33
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RIBnet supporter
Country: UK - England
Town: Dinard, Brittany
Boat name: Into the Red
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Length: 7m +
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Downhilldai
Quote:
Originally Posted by gotchiguy
Ahhhh.. you forget... I don't
(you do though )
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You own an Optimax don't you?
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Originally Posted by martini
So what happens to all the 2 stroke oil your engine uses then?!
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My engine AFAIK I don't own any engines?
(actually thats not true, I own an old Seagull that I'm rebuilding, but that doesn't even run yet )
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05 December 2010, 18:36
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Member
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Quote:
Originally Posted by gotchiguy
You own an Optimax don't you?
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What does that have to do with my perceived amnesia?
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05 December 2010, 18:47
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RIBnet supporter
Country: UK - England
Town: Dinard, Brittany
Boat name: Into the Red
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Downhilldai
What does that have to do with my perceived amnesia?
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Have you forgotten already?
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05 December 2010, 18:58
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Member
Country: Other
Town: Stanley, Falkland Is
Boat name: Seawolf
Make: Osprey Vipermax 5.8
Length: 5m +
Engine: Etec 150
Join Date: Mar 2006
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Quote:
Originally Posted by gotchiguy
however to gain an 83.33% power increase from your engine to ours takes only an extra 38kgs.
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Nah it's OK, 150 is quite sufficient for my needs, anything more would require packing several changes of underwear on a 5.8m and being able to scare myself %^&*less and still manage comfortably more than a mile on a litre of juice at 30 knots is just about the right compromise IMHO.
Odd for somebody who just admitted to owning a Seagull to be preaching on environmental issues too...
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05 December 2010, 19:00
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Member
Country: UK - Channel Islands
Town: jersey
Boat name: Martini II
Make: Arctic 28/FC470
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Quote:
Originally Posted by gotchiguy
AFAIK I don't own any engines?
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Quote:
Originally Posted by gotchiguy
When he sold it to us
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Originally Posted by gotchiguy
Ours is 234kgs
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"yours" can refer to singular or plural
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05 December 2010, 19:22
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RIBnet supporter
Country: UK - England
Town: Dinard, Brittany
Boat name: Into the Red
Make: Osprey Vipermax
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Quote:
Originally Posted by martini
"yours" can refer to singular or plural
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Alright, his then
Quote:
Originally Posted by BogMonster
Odd for somebody who just admitted to owning a Seagull to be preaching on environmental issues too...
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A Seagull that when finished I plan to run on proper castor oil yummy!!
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05 December 2010, 19:50
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Quote:
Originally Posted by gotchiguy
A Seagull that when finished I plan to run on proper castor oil yummy!!
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You'll smell like Biggles
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05 December 2010, 20:20
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Town: South Yorks
Boat name: Black Pig
Make: Ribcraft
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Engine: DF140a
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Originally Posted by martini
So what happens to all the 2 stroke oil your engine uses then?!
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"April 7, 2005
The U.S. Environmental Protection Agency awards BRP the prestigious Clean
Air Excellence Award for its Evinrude E-TEC technology. This is the first time an
outboard engine manufacturer receives the award, and it marks the start of the
environmental leadership BRP will show with the Evinrude E-TEC line."
"September 29, 2006
Evinrude E-TEC outboards that are 90-horsepower and below
are the first two-stroke engines to receive registration by the
Bodensee-Schiffahrts-Ordnung Commission, also known as
BSO (Lake Constance Nautical Regulations), for use on
Lake Constance, the pristine waters bordered by Germany,
Switzerland and Austria."
Obviously it's clean burned within the engine, unlike all that waste sump oil that "clean" 4 strokes have to get rid of every 50 hours or so
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05 December 2010, 20:23
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Originally Posted by Pikey Dave
unlike all that waste sump oil that "clean" 4 strokes have to get rid of every 50 hours or so
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It's much worse than that. Why do they have to dip their 'orrible sumps? To top 'em up is why! And where did the oil go I wonder...
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05 December 2010, 20:28
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Member
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How much oil does a V6 e-tec burn in 50 hours?
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05 December 2010, 20:30
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Member
Country: UK - England
Town: Gloucestershire
Boat name: Osprey
Make: Osprey Vipermax
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Engine: E-tec 300 G2
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Sorry I'm late, I heard a big up your E-tec thread was starting?
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05 December 2010, 20:33
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Chris
Sorry I'm late, I heard a big up your E-tec thread was starting?
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Your silence on this thread has been deafening.
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05 December 2010, 20:45
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Member
Country: UK - England
Town: Gloucestershire
Boat name: Osprey
Make: Osprey Vipermax
Length: 5m +
Engine: E-tec 300 G2
MMSI: TBC
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Posts: 4,021
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Downhilldai
How much oil does a V6 e-tec burn in 50 hours?
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Agreed, The oil has to go somewhere, am running on average at about 60-70:1
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05 December 2010, 20:47
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Member
Country: UK - England
Town: Gloucestershire
Boat name: Osprey
Make: Osprey Vipermax
Length: 5m +
Engine: E-tec 300 G2
MMSI: TBC
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Chris
Agreed, The oil has to go somewhere, am running on average at about 60-70:1
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I reckon this would equate to about 20 litres over 50 hours of normal use.
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05 December 2010, 20:48
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Member
Country: Other
Town: Stanley, Falkland Is
Boat name: Seawolf
Make: Osprey Vipermax 5.8
Length: 5m +
Engine: Etec 150
Join Date: Mar 2006
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Downhilldai
How much oil does a V6 e-tec burn in 50 hours?
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A lot more than a 4 stroke's sump oil I would think. I've used two 4L cans already in maybe 10-12 hours (though that is 1. the running in period 2. set to XD50 not XD100 as I haven't changed it yet and 3. including filling the oil tank from empty so I've probably only used 1 can in reality)
"Smell like Biggles"
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05 December 2010, 20:50
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Member
Country: UK - England
Town: South Yorks
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Make: Ribcraft
Length: 5m +
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Downhilldai
How much oil does a V6 e-tec burn in 50 hours?
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Depends on usage & engine size, V6 range is 150-300hp. If set to XD100, about 10-12litres. This however is burned within the engine & is exhausted as carbon. No raw oil leaves the engine. At idle, virtually no oil is used.
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