Etec 250 First Service

Mollers · 13 August 2010, 20:02

Not required until next june, but anyone had one done recently?

I rang our two local Rude agents today, one wanted £207+parts+VAT. When I asked what parts would be required, I was told that they'd check the impeller and plugs and decide whether they needed replacing. I suggested, that after 3 seasons use, I'd quite like them replaced.

Robin Curnow (Penryn) said they'd get back to me with a price, but didn't.

willk · 13 August 2010, 20:13

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I rang our two local Rude agents ....
Robin Curnow (Penryn) said they'd get back to me with a price, but didn't.

Yes, well perhaps you should have asked the Polite agents.

The spark plugs are an arm and a leg - if they're OK, would you still change them on general principles? The impeller fair enough...

Mollers · 13 August 2010, 20:21

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Yes, well perhaps you should have asked the Polite agents.

The spark plugs are an arm and a leg - if they're OK, would you still change them on general principles? The impeller fair enough...

Well, working on the premise that Opti plugs are also an arm and leg and are replaced annually (if main dealer serviced), the Etec items should be about due at 3 years.

What are your plug replacement intervals?

willk · 13 August 2010, 21:22

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What are your plug replacement intervals?

Same as yours, natch. But I do the annual service thingy and have 'em visually checked. If OK, we leave 'em in. Your stealer seems to of the same opinion.

I reckon your's are fecked anyway, so a purely academic argument - all that zooming around at WOT...

Chris · 13 August 2010, 21:39

There was a US seller that did complete Service kits on eBay however they seem to have stopped. From memory they supplied new plugs, impellor, new Seals for the Gearbox drain and fill plugs, new thermostats seals (so you can remove and test the stats), fuel filter cartridge, Gearbox oil

When the time comes my engine will be out of wty so I will be doing my own service as other than the impellor change its fairly straight forward.

If you are looking for a decent dealer to take it to try Steve at Race Marine in Taunton. Not too far from Cornwall

Nos4r2 · 13 August 2010, 23:25

I'd still grab a spare set though, if you're going to leave the old ones in.

BogMonster · 14 August 2010, 01:01

I've already ordered new plugs and impeller for mine and it's not due for 2 months

Why would a dealer (or in fact anybody) go to the bother of pulling an engine to bits to look at the impeller and then not change it while they were in there?

Chris · 14 August 2010, 08:56

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I was told that they'd check the impeller and plugs and decide whether they needed replacing.

How many hours have you done so far?

I have just had to replace my plugs at 130 hours which is about the longest they should go before being replaced. I was starting to see poor idling with stalling when dropping back to idle. New plugs was the answer.

Mollers · 14 August 2010, 10:07

Just spoken to Ian @ Liverpool Powerboats. He said that the plugs will definitely need replacing. As Chris says, it'll become lumpy at low revs. Mine is now showing 122hrs, which will be 130+ by the time the service is due.

According to Ian, it's box off, replace oil, check impellor and replace if required, change plugs and filter, run-up on diagnostic equipment. 4.5hrs +parts +Vat= £450 approx.

Not bad as if i'd bought an Opti, I'd be £900 out on servicing already and, partially deaf.

BogMonster · 14 August 2010, 13:04

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not bad as if i'd bought an opti, i'd be £900 out on servicing already and, partially deaf.

Are you suggesting they are a bit loud?

martini · 14 August 2010, 13:20

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Are you suggesting they are a bit loud?

I'm looking at some noise-cancelling headphones with intercom

Mollers · 14 August 2010, 13:36

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I'm looking at some noise-cancelling headphones with intercom

TBH, I only found Opti racket an issue at low speeds. Wind 'em up and they're no nosier than most other O/Bs and the wind noise takes over.

Matt, received DVDs this am. Superb.

Many thanks to yourself and all contributors. Scillies next year?

martini · 14 August 2010, 14:09

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TBH, I only found Opti racket an issue at low speeds. Wind 'em up and they're no nosier than most other O/Bs and the wind noise takes over.

I've got a nice high console so wind noise is pretty much nil. Certain rpm's are louder than others but I find it's when both engines are in sync they really seem to howl

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Matt, received DVDs this am. Superb.

Many thanks to yourself and all contributors. Scillies next year?

My pleasure

Sorry it took so long to get to the PO, not easy at its at least 400 yds away

I'm all over the Scillies idea, I'm booking a week off at the end of june for this, last few years have been good, settled weather around this time

BogMonster · 14 August 2010, 16:20

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I'm looking at some noise-cancelling headphones with intercom

Yes I noticed on the 'Bumpy Ride' video you posted a couple of weeks back that the soundtrack was, erm, slightly dominated by one feature

sounded good though

I always really liked the noise of the old V4 2 stroke on my Humber and am looking forwards to the song of a V6 bellowing its carbon footprint

martini · 14 August 2010, 16:30

Lovely sound but gets old very quickly

Chris · 14 August 2010, 17:47

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Yes I noticed on the 'Bumpy Ride' video you posted a couple of weeks back that the soundtrack was, erm, slightly dominated by one feature

sounded good though

I always really liked the noise of the old V4 2 stroke on my Humber and am looking forwards to the song of a V6 bellowing its carbon footprint

you will be dissapointed then the E-tec at speed is more a muted howl.

At idle a tantalising throb.

At rest a beautiful.....

Errrrrrmm I need to go

Mollers · 14 August 2010, 18:15

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you will be dissapointed then the E-tec at speed is more a muted howl.

At idle a tantalising throb.

At rest a beautiful.....

Errrrrrmm I need to go

There is on mine however, a rather unpleasant, resonating drone that occurs around 2000rpm.

Chris · 14 August 2010, 19:08

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There is on mine however, a rather unpleasant, resonating drone that occurs around 2000rpm.

Between 1700 and 2000 RPM is when the engines switch modes between stratified fuel delivery to homogenous hence the slight lumpiness you can get sometimes between those RPMs.

Unless you were about to add a punchline

Mollers · 14 August 2010, 21:23

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Unless you were about to add a punchline

I think you just have putting 'homos into the stratosphere'.

willk · 14 August 2010, 21:34

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I think you just have putting 'homos into the stratosphere'.

Relax, he said they were Geniuses. They'll be orbiting Uranus in no time.