ETEC 90 or Yamaha F100?

[Chatts]

Hi,

I'm looking at getting a Ribcraft 5.3 and will mainly be using for skiing and fishing. Am leaning towards the Yamaha based on the below but would appreciate any views?

Yamaha F100 - 170kg
£6,400 (0% Credit)
4 stroke - quiet and fine for trawling
Yamaha have good reputation
10hp more than Etec
Better resale value
Includes Prop and gauges

Etec 90 - 145kg
£5,700
25kg lighter
2 stroke - more responsive, better for skiing?
really has 95hp?
I like 2 strokes

Any views would be appreciated.
Thanks Simon.

[matt h]

both very good engines, it it were me, would make the decision on looks!! how girly,,

[raynash]

I am just replacing 2 Mariner 60hp 2 strokes with a 100hp Yamaha as well, everyone likes the Yamaha 4 strokes that I have spoken to. Only slight dilemma I have is the transom height on mine is 24" and the F100DETL is for a 20" transom. They make a F100DETX which is 25", but I think its hard to find in UK.

Any thoughts on this. I also note that on the Ribcraft site they show a F100DETL on a 5.85m rib as a standard option. Does anyone know the transom height on the new 5.85 model as mine is circa 1996.

Is anyone running the f100DETL on a 24" transom, your impressions re performance and economy would be appreciated.

[bernithebiker]

I have a Yam F100 on my Capelli 5.70m, and I'm very impressed with it so far, even though it has barely done 10 hours so far (crap weather).

One other thing you might like to consider, with petrol heading for £6 a gallon is fuel consumption. I would imagine that the ETEC would use more fuel? Don't know for sure.

I think the F100 has a Ford maunfactured block, and, when I bought mine at least, it was pretty much the lightest 100hp four stroke out there.

[matt h]

i would imagine the e tec is more economical at anything between 1000 and 3500 rpm, they are pretty frugall with the fuel!!

[bernithebiker]

Originally Posted by matt h

i would imagine the e tec is more economical at anything between 1000 and 3500 rpm, they are pretty frugall with the fuel!!

Hi Matt. I am curious as to why this would be the case. I think the ETEC's are direct injection? So no doubt this helps. But are 2 strokes now more economical than 4? Are there any magazine tests, etc. to back this up, or some figures?

[GuyP]

Originally Posted by Chatts

Hi,

I'm looking at getting a Ribcraft 5.3 and will mainly be using for skiing and fishing. Am leaning towards the Yamaha based on the below but would appreciate any views?

Yamaha F100 - 170kg
£6,400 (0% Credit)
4 stroke - quiet and fine for trawling
Yamaha have good reputation
10hp more than Etec
Better resale value
Includes Prop and gauges

Etec 90 - 145kg
£5,700
25kg lighter
2 stroke - more responsive, better for skiing?
really has 95hp?
I like 2 strokes

Any views would be appreciated.
Thanks Simon.

If you factor servicing & winterisation costs in to your running costs over the first three years, then the 'Rude will turn out even cheaper than your figures suggest (no servicing on ETECs for 3 yrs / 300 hours & auto-winterisation). Any difference in fuel useage will be small compared to the servicing cost differential.

But, as you say, the Yamaha will probably be worth more in the long term.

[BogMonster]

I have never seen a trawler with an outboard on it

[Chatts]

...need to subsidise the cost of the Ribcraft!!!

[Chatts]

Thanks for the info.

Just seen on another thread you can get a 90 mariner opti for £4,800. Much cheaper than the yam f100. Is the Yam worth £1,600 more? Same weight but would you notice the difference in power?

Thanks.

[ian parkes]

I think the considerable wieght saving would make all the difference .

I haven't used the yam but hired a boat of similar size to mine with a new honda 90 vtec while on holiday , the etec i have has lots more go than the honda and although i have done a direct comparison uses less fuel for a similar day out .
I also tried the demmo of my boat with a 75 etec and that had a lot more go than the 70 suzuki 4 stroke i was used to on a much smaller boat.

I did worry about trawling with the etec but it seems very happy to trawl when fishing at low revs and there is neve a hint of smoke or oil fouling when I open it up again .
i always felt confident with a 4 stroke when trawling but my worry with 4 stroke is that the oil pressure is quite low when ticking over under load which can't be doing the motor much good iether ,
My intention is to use my small aux motor for fishing when i get it rigged , and the cost difference there would buy you a small aux

[Rich L]

I think Yamaha are offering a 5 year warranty for any Engine bought prior to 30th June.