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18 July 2010, 14:28
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Etec oil
Can anybody tell me roughly how much oil an Etec 150 would use in say 50 hours of mixed operation, both in the XD100 mode and in the XD50 mode (where I understand it uses more).
I'm getting 4 x 4L XD50 shipped in the boat just wondering how long that will last as I'll have to order it in from Engerrrland, not a hope of buying it here.
Ta
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18 July 2010, 22:19
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If some good soul can answer for the 150hp usage part, I can confirm that it will use ALMOST twice as much XD50 as XD100. So there has to be a saving on postage costs right there!
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19 July 2010, 00:05
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It'll have to be by seafreight due to being hazardous, so the cost per cubic metre is neither here nor there really it will be fixed costs that are a bit steep.
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19 July 2010, 00:21
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Can't you get a 25 litre drum shipped?
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19 July 2010, 02:14
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Quote:
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Can't you get a 25 litre drum shipped?
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Is it available in 25L drums?
Probably easier to handle in small qtys but if the price difference is right...
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19 July 2010, 02:36
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There's a place in the states that sells it dirt cheap. It's not worth us UK guys getting it because of the shipping, but you have to pay shipping anyway. I'll try and find the site later today if someone doesn't beat me to it.
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19 July 2010, 02:41
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$19 a US Gallon if you buy a 55 Gal barrel at just over $1000.....Seems like a bargain to me: http://www.domo-online.com/evinrudexd50
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19 July 2010, 11:44
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I saw that too, but it would still have to come via UK as the Argies are doing their best to f*ck up shipping links with all of South America at the moment so would 2 lots of shipping.
The other thing is that 55 gal drum would probably be years and years of use at my typical 50 hours a year, so at possible risk of contamination or 'going off' so would probably not be keen on that.
Anyway that brings me neatly back to the original question what's a typical oil consumption rate on an Etec 150 for either XD50 or XD100?
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19 July 2010, 11:56
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Hi Mate,
Don't know exactly what the consumption is, i run the engines set to run on XD50 but put Xd100 in, i would guess that I am using a gallon of oil every 4-5 hours of running for both engines. If i was you I would have them ship a couple of cartons of the oil with the boat, there's 6 gallons in each carton, that will keep you going for a long time.
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19 July 2010, 12:53
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Combining my data and Gordy's, that makes about 16 hours/1USG running on XD100 settings on a 150HP?
If you have the cable and software, I'd not bother p1ss1ng about with XD50, it just doesn't stack up. If you get stuck, you can reset to TCW3 for a while...
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19 July 2010, 13:46
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I average about 70:1 using XD100 (the engine is set to XD100)
With the engine set to run on XD50 you would be using around 50:1.
I on long runs I average 4200RPM and about 35 knots however if I nail it for long periods at say 40 knots (5200 RPM) then the usuage is higher.
If Roy has done his extended testing you should be clear of the extra oil period however I would use the oppurtunity of a large rib with loads of storage space to stock up on as much oil as possible
I have used about 4 x 3.8 litre cans of oil this year and have done about 50 hours of usuage.
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19 July 2010, 23:10
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Hmm. I might get a bit more shipped then... or maybe switch to XD100. I'll have to check out the respective prices, but I seem to remember thinking that the cost of XD100 was a lot more than the 40% difference in oil consumption.
Decisions decisions
Thanks all
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20 July 2010, 00:34
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20 July 2010, 02:43
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The price of the XD50 I'm getting was a bit less than that but I've asked for a price for the XD100 for comparison. Ta for the link
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20 July 2010, 19:46
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Stephen, seeing how difficult and expensive it is for you to get stuff like this shipped I would keep your engine on XD50 so at least if you run low you can use another good quality TCW3 oli until you can get another load of XD50 sent over.
XD50 is still a really good oil you will just use a little more of it. (20%)
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20 July 2010, 20:00
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Quote:
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XD50 is still a really good oil you will just use a little more of it. (20%)
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This has not been my experience with the 90hp etecs.
I ran one side on XD50 settings and the other on XD100 settings (an unfortunate mistake ), the XD50 side was barely visible while the XD100 side was about 50% full...
I was doing long cruises at lowish revs, which may account for it.
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20 July 2010, 20:13
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Quote:
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I was doing long cruises at lowish revs, which may account for it.
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Indeed my calm Irish freind, I drive my rib like I make love... fast and furious and getting through lots of oil
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20 July 2010, 20:18
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Indeed my calm Irish freind, I drive my rib like I make love... fast and furious and getting through lots of oil
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2 strokes and it's over?
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20 July 2010, 20:19
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21 July 2010, 01:25
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Tut tut you will get this thread bilged!!
I have an accessory on order so that changing oil types should not be an issue
Next question. I read somewhere (forget where) that XD100 is smoke free but on TCW3 (which presumably includes XD50) can make the engine smoke a bit, any truth in this from owners on here / if so is it when idling/trolling or WOT or what? I had a 'two-smoke' before and would prefer to go smokeless if possible...
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