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09 November 2017, 08:43
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Country: Australia
Town: Beacon Hill
Boat name: TBD
Make: Gemini Zapcat
Length: 4m +
Engine: Tohatsu 50
Join Date: Oct 2017
Posts: 29
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Evinrude ETEC 30 (or 25) experience?
Hi, anybody have an ETEC 25/30? Could you please share your ETEC 25/30 experience? I am about to drop the penny on a ETEC 30HP tiller steer (83Kg), for a Highfield Reef 460 (115Kg boat only) and I hope it will combine well...
The ETEC 40 would be too heavy at 113Kg, although the boat is rated at 40HP.
Any info highly appreciated.
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09 November 2017, 14:14
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Country: UK - England
Town: Retford
Boat name: Spy-sea-one
Make: Excel 435
Length: 4m +
Engine: Suzuki Outboard/25/4
Join Date: Oct 2011
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09 November 2017, 23:16
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Country: UK - England
Town: Salcombe
Boat name: Lion
Make: Wellcraft,brig450l
Length: 6m +
Engine: Outboard 225,40
Join Date: Sep 2012
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Go 40 I have one on a rig 450 , good combo
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10 November 2017, 14:24
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Member
Country: Ireland
Town: Castlebar
Boat name: Clewless
Make: Valiant DR 490
Length: 4m +
Engine: 60 hp ETEC
MMSI: Awaitng one
Join Date: Oct 2007
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Buy the engine with the best local support. This advise is from an etec owner
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10 November 2017, 19:36
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Country: UK - England
Town: South Yorks
Boat name: Black Pig
Make: Ribcraft
Length: 5m +
Engine: DF140a
MMSI: 235111389
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Originally Posted by two stroke mick
Buy the engine with the best local support. This advise is from an etec owner
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^^^^^^^wot he said[emoji106]
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10 November 2017, 20:20
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I had a 30hp ETEC (tiller steered) on a 4.2m Zodiac. The engine was nice and very reliable but too heavy to lift on and off regularly. I had the simple pull-start version and it always started first time and ran smoothly. No complaints but I suspect most modern outboards should be good. As said, going for the brand with the best local service and support would be wise.
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11 November 2017, 06:35
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Member
Country: USA
Town: Mountain View, CA
Boat name: Six Park
Make: True Kit
Length: 3m +
Engine: Suzuki 6
Join Date: Dec 2014
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When I built my 4.3m RIB a couple of years ago, the Suzuki DF 30A was the lightest motor I could find. Now 60 hours later, it still works and smells like new.
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11 November 2017, 08:57
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Member
Country: UK - England
Town: Bristol
Boat name: n/a
Make: Honwave T35AE
Length: 3m +
Engine: Tohatsu 18hp 2stroke
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83kg is heavy for a 30hp 2 stroke. I had a 2 stroke 30hp Yam on the back of a futura a few years ago. It was around 53kg and just about on the limit of what you'd want to lump around. Nice engine though.
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11 November 2017, 09:55
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Country: UK - Scotland
Boat name: imposter
Make: FunYak
Length: 3m +
Engine: Tohatsu 30HP
MMSI: 235089819
Join Date: Sep 2005
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Bare in mind that with tiller steer your weight is well aft too. A heavy engine might be more tolerable with a centre console (especially with PTT).
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12 November 2017, 19:08
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Country: Canada
Boat name: WB465
Make: Zodiac
Length: 4m +
Engine: 2013 ETEC 30
Join Date: Dec 2012
Posts: 256
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I’ve had one on a Zodiac Milpro WB465 for 5 years and I’m perfectly happy with it. Compared to other 30hp outboards it is light. Plenty of torque. Starts first pull *every time*, even first pull of the season after winter storage, which is a breeze.
It’s a pretty wide and heavy SIB, but she does 24mph, and planes with absolute ease, even loaded up.
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13 November 2017, 00:18
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Country: Australia
Town: Beacon Hill
Boat name: TBD
Make: Gemini Zapcat
Length: 4m +
Engine: Tohatsu 50
Join Date: Oct 2017
Posts: 29
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Originally Posted by ba_fisher
When I built my 4.3m RIB a couple of years ago, the Suzuki DF 30A was the lightest motor I could find. Now 60 hours later, it still works and smells like new.
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Yep, the Suzuki DF30 or DF40 would be the 4-stroke contenders if not the Etec. How is maintenance on your DF40? Easy/hard to do? Expensive?
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13 November 2017, 00:20
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Country: Australia
Town: Beacon Hill
Boat name: TBD
Make: Gemini Zapcat
Length: 4m +
Engine: Tohatsu 50
Join Date: Oct 2017
Posts: 29
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Originally Posted by Poly
Bare in mind that with tiller steer your weight is well aft too. A heavy engine might be more tolerable with a centre console (especially with PTT).
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Thanks Poly, I will put the tank & battery all the way forward in the bow cubby to compensate as much as possible.
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13 November 2017, 00:23
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Member
Country: Australia
Town: Beacon Hill
Boat name: TBD
Make: Gemini Zapcat
Length: 4m +
Engine: Tohatsu 50
Join Date: Oct 2017
Posts: 29
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Originally Posted by two stroke mick
Buy the engine with the best local support. This advise is from an etec owner
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Yes, the Suzuki dealer is literally the nearest local dealer to my home, and the Etec dealer is not much further away and both are excellent people and workshop.
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13 November 2017, 00:30
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Member
Country: Australia
Town: Beacon Hill
Boat name: TBD
Make: Gemini Zapcat
Length: 4m +
Engine: Tohatsu 50
Join Date: Oct 2017
Posts: 29
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Originally Posted by Andy JC
83kg is heavy for a 30hp 2 stroke. I had a 2 stroke 30hp Yam on the back of a futura a few years ago. It was around 53kg and just about on the limit of what you'd want to lump around. Nice engine though.
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Yes, we can still buy that 2-stroke Yamaha here in Aus: 30HMHL Yamaha 2 Stroke 30hp Long Shaft CV OUTBOARD FOR SALE | Brisbane Yamaha and they are great engines. But it is old-skool, you have to mix the oil, it has a short tiller, no PTT and has the noise/smell as per old-skool as well. That is why the Etec is so interesting, no mixing, no smell, less noise, nice big tiller, but 30Kg heavier.
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13 November 2017, 00:32
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Country: Australia
Town: Beacon Hill
Boat name: TBD
Make: Gemini Zapcat
Length: 4m +
Engine: Tohatsu 50
Join Date: Oct 2017
Posts: 29
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Originally Posted by Projectile
I’ve had one on a Zodiac Milpro WB465 for 5 years and I’m perfectly happy with it. Compared to other 30hp outboards it is light. Plenty of torque. Starts first pull *every time*, even first pull of the season after winter storage, which is a breeze.
It’s a pretty wide and heavy SIB, but she does 24mph, and planes with absolute ease, even loaded up.
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Thanks Projectile, that is good info! that gives me something to compare with, just what I need
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13 November 2017, 01:00
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Member
Country: UK - England
Town: Bristol
Boat name: n/a
Make: Honwave T35AE
Length: 3m +
Engine: Tohatsu 18hp 2stroke
Join Date: Feb 2006
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Originally Posted by GI-SYD
it has a short tiller, no PTT and has the noise/smell as per old-skool as well. That is why the Etec is so interesting, no mixing, no smell, less noise, nice big tiller, but 30Kg heavier.
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Personally I don't see mixing oil as a great chore, you can get a tiller extension, PTT is not really necessary due to its light weight and the smell... well I see that as a plus point [emoji6]
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13 November 2017, 01:06
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Country: Canada
Boat name: WB465
Make: Zodiac
Length: 4m +
Engine: 2013 ETEC 30
Join Date: Dec 2012
Posts: 256
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Quote:
Originally Posted by GI-SYD
Thanks Projectile, that is good info! that gives me something to compare with, just what I need
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You’re welcome. The boat is not fast, but it it is well rounded and the light weight is a good offset. Over 30hp, weight starts to really go up.
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13 November 2017, 05:18
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Member
Country: USA
Town: Mountain View, CA
Boat name: Six Park
Make: True Kit
Length: 3m +
Engine: Suzuki 6
Join Date: Dec 2014
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Quote:
Originally Posted by GI-SYD
Yep, the Suzuki DF30 or DF40 would be the 4-stroke contenders if not the Etec. How is maintenance on your DF40? Easy/hard to do? Expensive?
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DF25A/DF30A is the same motor. DF40 is much bigger and heavier.
My DF30A is pretty simple to maintain. Not much different than any other 4 stroke motor. First year I did the oil change and lower unit oil myself. Second year I went to a professional mechanic and he charged me 3 hours of labor.
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16 November 2017, 13:26
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Member
Country: USA
Town: Connecticut
Make: Zodiac
Length: 6m +
Engine: Undecided
Join Date: Nov 2009
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Etec
I've been running Etec's for about 12 years. Everything from 25 -225 hp and have had great luck with them. we use them recreationally as well as with the fire department. I went with an Etec for our new fire boat as they are as close to idiot proof as possible. No complaints from any of my customers who run them either.
Overheat- it tells you
Low oil- it tells you
Out of fuel- Hmmm, wish they added a beeper for that too but oh well, maybe next time they will check before leaving the dock.
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16 November 2017, 23:56
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Member
Country: Australia
Town: Beacon Hill
Boat name: TBD
Make: Gemini Zapcat
Length: 4m +
Engine: Tohatsu 50
Join Date: Oct 2017
Posts: 29
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Originally Posted by cgoing
I've been running Etec's for about 12 years. Everything from 25 -225 hp and have had great luck with them. we use them recreationally as well as with the fire department. I went with an Etec for our new fire boat as they are as close to idiot proof as possible. No complaints from any of my customers who run them either.
Overheat- it tells you
Low oil- it tells you
Out of fuel- Hmmm, wish they added a beeper for that too but oh well, maybe next time they will check before leaving the dock.
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Thanks, yes this is why I like the ETECS. What do you think of putting the 40Hp (113Kg with tiller) on the Highfield Reef/Club 460?
Club 460 - Highfield Boats
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