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22 December 2009, 20:31
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Country: Ireland
Boat name: Ocean Escapes
Make: Excalibur
Length: 9m +
Engine: 150Yamaha&300Verado
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Experts Needed, Whats the Value of this Engine?
Hi all, Im thinking of making an offer on an engine I have seen on a boat that is rotting away, As far as I can tell the engine as approx 2000 (year) and is PTT and electric start, From what I have heard the engine was never flushed out and has not been started in about 3 years but the prop does turn, inside the engine is perfect, the outside is a bit rough and may need a new prop, what im looking for is a value on the engine, what would be a fair offer?
Thanks all!!
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22 December 2009, 20:35
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Country: UK - England
Town: Up Norf
Make: Avon SR4,Tremlett 23
Length: 4m +
Engine: Yam 55, Volvo 200
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Hp?
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22 December 2009, 20:43
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Member
Country: Ireland
Boat name: Ocean Escapes
Make: Excalibur
Length: 9m +
Engine: 150Yamaha&300Verado
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sorry, forgot to say, Its a 40hp 4stroke
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22 December 2009, 20:48
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Country: UK - Wales
Town: Pwllheli-North Wales
Boat name: V-ONE
Make: Highfield
Length: 8m +
Engine: Honda 250hp
Join Date: Mar 2001
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Quote:
Originally Posted by andreworiordan
Its a 40hp 4stroke
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Are you sure?
Jono
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22 December 2009, 20:51
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Member
Country: Ireland
Boat name: Ocean Escapes
Make: Excalibur
Length: 9m +
Engine: 150Yamaha&300Verado
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positive, again im not sure on the year, i might be out
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22 December 2009, 21:13
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Country: UK - Scotland
Town: Aberdeenshire
Boat name: Sula
Make: Ribcraft 4.8m
Length: 4m +
Engine: Tohatsu 70hp + aux
MMSI: 235087213
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Looks like it's on the back of a Zodiac Pro 7-Man. It's also been on a mooring, which would account for the severe corrosion on the leg. Crying shame, on what would have been an expensive engine from new.
Incidentally - the prop turning means nothing (as it's neutral).
A new 40hp E-Tec will set you back circa £4k. However the one pictured isn't in the best of condition. Sure the lower leg can be resprayed (probably worth replacing the sacrificial anodes too). What's more of a worry is that it's never been flushed. The internal pipework could be badly effected. You really need to start her and check the tell-tale. First off, the impeller will need changed, and check the thermostat too for salt build up.
Price wise, allowing for a thorough service, new propeller, repaint the lower leg and skeg, probably no more than £1,800 tops. The fact it's never been flushed says a lot about the previous owner.
You could pick up a new Tohatsu 40hp TLDi for £3,800.
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22 December 2009, 21:16
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Quote:
Originally Posted by andreworiordan
positive, again im not sure on the year, i might be out
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Must be a grey import to be an evinrude 4 stroke as all OMC/BRP/Bombardier 4 stroke enginges were rebranded suzukis as Johnsons.
Theres a good chance that gear box wont come off without serious heat and powerhead off.
Best left alone in my opinion.
If all was running and gear box would come off, I would think it would be worth £1000 - £1500 to sell
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22 December 2009, 21:19
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Country: UK - England
Town: Birmingham
Make: Avon SR4
Length: 4m +
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Absolutely No idea on the value but i've just looked at your build thread; boat looks fantastic a real transformation
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22 December 2009, 21:27
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Country: Ireland
Boat name: Ocean Escapes
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Length: 9m +
Engine: 150Yamaha&300Verado
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thanks, just need to put an engine on her and she should be done, going down tomorrow to rewire the boat!!
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22 December 2009, 21:31
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Country: UK - England
Town: Warwickshire
Boat name: True Blue
Make: Humber ocean pro 6.3
Length: 6m +
Engine: Mercury 150 opti
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Originally Posted by Jono Garton
Best left alone in my opinion.
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I'll second that, be carfull. if the powerhead is corroded internaly like the rest of the engine, you could be buying a load of trouble
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22 December 2009, 22:44
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Country: UK - England
Town: The wilds of Wiltshire
Boat name: Dominator
Make: SR5.4
Length: 7m +
Engine: Yam 85
MMSI: 235055163
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I'd be offering 50 quid for it given the level of visible corrosion. At least it'll be worth that for scrap if it's as had it as it potentially could be.
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23 December 2009, 00:05
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Interestly that prop seems to have the end of one blade missing (it could be the angle of the photo). If it has and it's been run like that, I would be checking the gearbox and propshaft bearings out.
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23 December 2009, 09:10
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if the lower unit looks like that , then what does the internal cooling passages look like in the engine's block ?? SERIOUS CORROSION PROB'S . BE CAREFUL HERE . I WOULD OFFER NO MORE THAN £ 300.00 . You could have it for half a season and then runinto PROB'S
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23 December 2009, 09:13
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Country: UK - Scotland
Town: Aberdeenshire
Boat name: Sula
Make: Ribcraft 4.8m
Length: 4m +
Engine: Tohatsu 70hp + aux
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Just noticed. This is an older Pro 420 (4.2m). The transom is different and would have required a standard-shaft engine. The new Pro range all use long-shaft engines. The way the engine has been attached looks decidedly Heath-Robinson (most of the strain on the lower two bolts), which would account for the leg sitting in water even in the tilt up position. Your Tornado would easily take a 50hp, Couple of options here for you (both Yamaha).
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/50hp-yamaha-ou...item4a9d3b5769
http://www.findafishingboat.com/listings.php?cid=38
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