Go Back   RIBnet Forums > RIB talk > Engines & props
Click Here to Login

Reply
 
Thread Tools Search this Thread
 
Old 22 December 2009, 20:31   #1
Member
 
andreworiordan's Avatar
 
Country: Ireland
Boat name: Ocean Escapes
Make: Excalibur
Length: 9m +
Engine: 150Yamaha&300Verado
Join Date: Jan 2007
Posts: 227
Experts Needed, Whats the Value of this Engine?

Hi all, Im thinking of making an offer on an engine I have seen on a boat that is rotting away, As far as I can tell the engine as approx 2000 (year) and is PTT and electric start, From what I have heard the engine was never flushed out and has not been started in about 3 years but the prop does turn, inside the engine is perfect, the outside is a bit rough and may need a new prop, what im looking for is a value on the engine, what would be a fair offer?

Thanks all!!
Attached Thumbnails
Click image for larger version

Name:	SG1L0474.jpg
Views:	264
Size:	42.0 KB
ID:	48280   Click image for larger version

Name:	SG1L0475.jpg
Views:	266
Size:	52.6 KB
ID:	48281   Click image for larger version

Name:	SG1L0476.jpg
Views:	248
Size:	59.6 KB
ID:	48282   Click image for larger version

Name:	SG1L0478.jpg
Views:	281
Size:	54.4 KB
ID:	48283  
__________________
Andrew O'Riordan
andreworiordan is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 22 December 2009, 20:35   #2
Member
 
chewy's Avatar
 
Country: UK - England
Town: Up Norf
Make: Avon SR4,Tremlett 23
Length: 4m +
Engine: Yam 55, Volvo 200
Join Date: Apr 2007
Posts: 5,217
Hp?
__________________
chewy is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 22 December 2009, 20:43   #3
Member
 
andreworiordan's Avatar
 
Country: Ireland
Boat name: Ocean Escapes
Make: Excalibur
Length: 9m +
Engine: 150Yamaha&300Verado
Join Date: Jan 2007
Posts: 227
sorry, forgot to say, Its a 40hp 4stroke
__________________
Andrew O'Riordan
andreworiordan is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 22 December 2009, 20:48   #4
Member
 
Country: UK - Wales
Town: Pwllheli-North Wales
Boat name: V-ONE
Make: Highfield
Length: 8m +
Engine: Honda 250hp
Join Date: Mar 2001
Posts: 2,367
Quote:
Originally Posted by andreworiordan View Post
Its a 40hp 4stroke
Are you sure?

Jono
__________________
www.waterwise-marine.co.uk
Jono Garton is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 22 December 2009, 20:51   #5
Member
 
andreworiordan's Avatar
 
Country: Ireland
Boat name: Ocean Escapes
Make: Excalibur
Length: 9m +
Engine: 150Yamaha&300Verado
Join Date: Jan 2007
Posts: 227
positive, again im not sure on the year, i might be out
__________________
Andrew O'Riordan
andreworiordan is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 22 December 2009, 21:13   #6
Member
 
spartacus's Avatar
 
Country: UK - Scotland
Town: Aberdeenshire
Boat name: Sula
Make: Ribcraft 4.8m
Length: 4m +
Engine: Tohatsu 70hp + aux
MMSI: 235087213
Join Date: Jun 2007
Posts: 4,651
RIBase
Looks like it's on the back of a Zodiac Pro 7-Man. It's also been on a mooring, which would account for the severe corrosion on the leg. Crying shame, on what would have been an expensive engine from new.

Incidentally - the prop turning means nothing (as it's neutral).

A new 40hp E-Tec will set you back circa £4k. However the one pictured isn't in the best of condition. Sure the lower leg can be resprayed (probably worth replacing the sacrificial anodes too). What's more of a worry is that it's never been flushed. The internal pipework could be badly effected. You really need to start her and check the tell-tale. First off, the impeller will need changed, and check the thermostat too for salt build up.

Price wise, allowing for a thorough service, new propeller, repaint the lower leg and skeg, probably no more than £1,800 tops. The fact it's never been flushed says a lot about the previous owner.

You could pick up a new Tohatsu 40hp TLDi for £3,800.
__________________
spartacus is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 22 December 2009, 21:16   #7
Member
 
Country: UK - Wales
Town: Pwllheli-North Wales
Boat name: V-ONE
Make: Highfield
Length: 8m +
Engine: Honda 250hp
Join Date: Mar 2001
Posts: 2,367
Quote:
Originally Posted by andreworiordan View Post
positive, again im not sure on the year, i might be out
Must be a grey import to be an evinrude 4 stroke as all OMC/BRP/Bombardier 4 stroke enginges were rebranded suzukis as Johnsons.

Theres a good chance that gear box wont come off without serious heat and powerhead off.

Best left alone in my opinion.

If all was running and gear box would come off, I would think it would be worth £1000 - £1500 to sell

Jono
__________________
www.waterwise-marine.co.uk
Jono Garton is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 22 December 2009, 21:19   #8
Member
 
Country: UK - England
Town: Birmingham
Make: Avon SR4
Length: 4m +
Engine: Yam 55
Join Date: Jun 2009
Posts: 75
Absolutely No idea on the value but i've just looked at your build thread; boat looks fantastic a real transformation
__________________
shoestring is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 22 December 2009, 21:27   #9
Member
 
andreworiordan's Avatar
 
Country: Ireland
Boat name: Ocean Escapes
Make: Excalibur
Length: 9m +
Engine: 150Yamaha&300Verado
Join Date: Jan 2007
Posts: 227
thanks, just need to put an engine on her and she should be done, going down tomorrow to rewire the boat!!
__________________
Andrew O'Riordan
andreworiordan is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 22 December 2009, 21:31   #10
Member
 
Country: UK - England
Town: Warwickshire
Boat name: True Blue
Make: Humber ocean pro 6.3
Length: 6m +
Engine: Mercury 150 opti
Join Date: Oct 2005
Posts: 456
Quote:
Originally Posted by Jono Garton View Post
Best left alone in my opinion.
I'll second that, be carfull. if the powerhead is corroded internaly like the rest of the engine, you could be buying a load of trouble
__________________
Ian Sharlot is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 22 December 2009, 22:44   #11
RIBnet admin team
 
Nos4r2's Avatar
 
Country: UK - England
Town: The wilds of Wiltshire
Boat name: Dominator
Make: SR5.4
Length: 7m +
Engine: Yam 85
MMSI: 235055163
Join Date: Jul 2005
Posts: 13,069
RIBase
I'd be offering 50 quid for it given the level of visible corrosion. At least it'll be worth that for scrap if it's as had it as it potentially could be.
__________________
Need spares,consoles,consumables,hire,training or even a new boat?

Please click HERE and HERE and support our Trade Members.

Join up as a Trade member or Supporter HERE
Nos4r2 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 23 December 2009, 00:05   #12
Member
 
Hightower's Avatar
 
Country: UK - England
Town: Fareham
Length: 6m +
Join Date: Sep 2003
Posts: 7,866
Interestly that prop seems to have the end of one blade missing (it could be the angle of the photo). If it has and it's been run like that, I would be checking the gearbox and propshaft bearings out.
__________________
Andy

Looks Slow but is Fast
Member of the ebay Blue RIB cover club.
Hightower is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 23 December 2009, 09:10   #13
Member
 
Country: UK - England
Town: Surrey
Length: no boat
Join Date: Feb 2009
Posts: 215
if the lower unit looks like that , then what does the internal cooling passages look like in the engine's block ?? SERIOUS CORROSION PROB'S . BE CAREFUL HERE . I WOULD OFFER NO MORE THAN £ 300.00 . You could have it for half a season and then runinto PROB'S
__________________
outboardtech is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 23 December 2009, 09:13   #14
Member
 
spartacus's Avatar
 
Country: UK - Scotland
Town: Aberdeenshire
Boat name: Sula
Make: Ribcraft 4.8m
Length: 4m +
Engine: Tohatsu 70hp + aux
MMSI: 235087213
Join Date: Jun 2007
Posts: 4,651
RIBase
Just noticed. This is an older Pro 420 (4.2m). The transom is different and would have required a standard-shaft engine. The new Pro range all use long-shaft engines. The way the engine has been attached looks decidedly Heath-Robinson (most of the strain on the lower two bolts), which would account for the leg sitting in water even in the tilt up position. Your Tornado would easily take a 50hp, Couple of options here for you (both Yamaha).
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/50hp-yamaha-ou...item4a9d3b5769

http://www.findafishingboat.com/listings.php?cid=38
__________________
spartacus is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply


Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are Off
Pingbacks are Off
Refbacks are Off




All times are GMT. The time now is 14:19.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.8 Beta 1
Copyright ©2000 - 2024, vBulletin Solutions, Inc.